Serenity - Lenore/Lovebot ?

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THESOMNAMBULIST

Tuesday, August 30, 2011 11:59 AM

Just wondering how people feel about this aspect of SERENITY. Because really in the show there was nothing to suggest this kind of technology. Yet after the film one has to wonder whether there isn't some aspect of this in the series....?

I mean - Inara? Could she be....?

ARTCAT81

Tuesday, August 30, 2011 12:36 PM

I always thought it fit with the 'verse since we spent most of our time on the backwater planets. And we have seen the technology before...

warning spoilers if you did not read the comics

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We know Dobson survived being shot in the face, and got a nifty bionic eye replacement. And then there are the hands of blue who are a fine series of mechanisms. So the technology exists, just probably not something many out in the black can afford.

I do not think Inara is, because she is entirely too human in behavior.

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TWO

Tuesday, August 30, 2011 1:13 PM

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Originally posted by THESOMNAMBULIST:
I mean - Inara? Could she be....?

If Walt Disney could have president-robots 50 years ago, then Joss Whedon can have sex-robots with fake looking hair in 500 years. And Inara's hair is not teased and hair-sprayed into a helmet like robot Lenore's! She would be offended that you think her hair is fake after she takes so much effort and expense keeping it nice.

The mechanical engineering justification for having one sex-robot in the movie in 2005 is that there are many killer-robots walking around in Serenity Better Days #3 May 2008. I know it is backward causality having something in 2008 used to explain what happened in 2005, but that's the science fiction entertainment business.
www.tfaw.com/Graphic-Novels/Profile/Serenity-Volume-2-Better-Days-and-
Other-Stories-2nd-Edition-HC___384864
Buy the comic to find out what happens next.

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity," where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

THESOMNAMBULIST

Tuesday, August 30, 2011 1:27 PM

TWO - those robots are a little too Phantom Menace for my liking. I rather wish I hadn't seen that.

Well my question was aimed more at how SERENITY, and it's particulars, falls retrospectively within the context of FIREFLY rather than with the future, but I get your drift. 500 years hence seems fine for 'Lovebot' technology but was more intrigued about whether any indicators of such advancement had occured during the run of the show.

THESOMNAMBULIST

Tuesday, August 30, 2011 1:33 PM

Originally posted by artcat81:

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I always thought it fit with the 'verse since we spent most of our time on the backwater planets. And we have seen the technology before...

warning spoilers if you did not read the comics

Select to view spoiler:

We know Dobson survived being shot in the face, and got a nifty bionic eye replacement. And then there are the hands of blue who are a fine series of mechanisms. So the technology exists, just probably not something many out in the black can afford.

I do not think Inara is, because she is entirely too human in behavior.

Hey Artcat81. I guess that is an indicator of such technology. Fair to say...

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I didn't realise the hands of blue were 'mechanisms'

As for Inara it was a stretch on my part for sure - but is there a case to suggest that if such advanced technolgy exists then surely there's equivalent advanced software to mimic human behavior also..?

TWO

Tuesday, August 30, 2011 1:35 PM

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Originally posted by THESOMNAMBULIST:
...was more intrigued about whether any indicators of such advancement had occured during the run of the show.

In Bushwacked, there was that weird Reaver built bomb that intertwined itself with Serenity. That looked robotic to me. Kaylee didn't get in a spacesuit to cut the wires in the booby trap - the bomb was smart enough to put itself inside the air pressurized part of Serenity.

It is years too late, but I finally figured out the Reavers' strategy: Rescue ships stop at the wreck; a bomb is loaded on each new rescue ship; once the ship has left the wreck behind and the crew believe they're safe, the rescue ship explodes when it lands on a planet. It is the Reavers' idea of a practical joke.

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity," where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

INVADERCHAT

Tuesday, August 30, 2011 2:33 PM

Doesn't Kaylee say that it'll explode if they detach from the other ship? I thought it was just a case of disabling any ship that stopped to help/loot/salvage/whatever and then coming back later to mop them up too, especially if it did actually DISABLE the ship and not just blow it to bits, then they'd have a stationary ship to board and some living crew to murder and...do Reaver stuff to.

EDIT* As to the original point though, no, I don't think there did really seem to be an indicator that something like that was technologically possible in the series though as has been said we spent most of the time seeing what rim worlds had and clearly the core planets are far more advanced.

There's pretty high levels of technology in other ways like the sonic thingie that the Hands of Blue have and the brain scanner in the hospital as well as floating metal islands and the like which could sort of suggest they have advanced in the field of robotics too but otherwise not really.

Though look at some of the work going on in robotics at the moment and that alone points to something like the love-bot being available in five hundred years.

And yes, those robots in the comic rather put me off too.

TWO

Tuesday, August 30, 2011 3:25 PM

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Originally posted by InvaderChat:
Doesn't Kaylee say that it'll explode if they detach from the other ship? I thought it was just a case of disabling any ship that stopped to help/loot/salvage/whatever and then coming back later to mop them up too, especially if it did actually DISABLE the ship and not just blow it to bits, then they'd have a stationary ship to board and some living crew to murder and...do Reaver stuff to. . . .

And yes, those robots in the comic rather put me off too.

Whatever the gizmo is that places a bomb inside Serenity, it is huge. Looks like it has tentacles or roots. I'm staying with my flamboyant theory that it is a robot. There is a screencap of the Reaver booby trap at http://disparue.org/gallery/firefly/04/index.php?page=6 picture firefly04_0589.jpg

WASH What is it?
MAL Booby trap. Reavers sometimes leave 'em behind for the rescue ships. We triggered it when we latched on.
WASH And when we detach --
MAL -- it blows.
WASH Okay -- so we don't detach. We just, I don't know, sit tight until...
ZOE What? Reavers come back?
Kaylee's been studying the image on the vid screen.
KAYLEE Looks like they've jerry-rigged it with a pressure catch. Only thing that'd work with all these spare parts. Could pro'lly bypass that easy, we get to the DC line.
MAL You tell me now, little Kaylee – you really think you can do this?
KAYLEE Sure. Yeah. Think so. 'sides, if I mess up, it's not like you'll be able to yell at me.

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity," where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

RIONAEIRE

Wednesday, August 31, 2011 1:00 AM

Wait, what? Are you saying that the hands of blue are really robots? Sure maybe some of the more drone functioning ones may be, but are you saying they're all robots?

I don't think Inara is a love bot. But that reminds me of that Next Generation episode where we find out that Data's creator's wife is a android of her, not the original her. That was an interesting episode.

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THESOMNAMBULIST

Wednesday, August 31, 2011 9:37 AM

A few interesting examples of modern technology there. The tentacled bomb, the floating islands and the medical unit in Ariel.. Was Ariel one of the better off planets? I can't remember now...

Still I think a synthetic robot/human thingy like Lenore is a different kettle o' fish. I guess there's mechanical technology and then there's a kind of biotech technology (sorry this stuff is outa my scope in terms of jargon) but er, a sort of fleshy robot... Like Bladerunner..

What triggered my question was The Operatives reaction to Lenore when she played back Mr Universe' recording. The Operative looked quite alarmed. As though it was new even to him?

As for Inara. Well I doubt she is either as I'm sure it would have come out by now, but she is almost impossibly beautiful. And then there's those 'medical' check ups she disappears to. Could be it's for an oil change and a clean up of the spark plugs?! There's the fact that Inara and Lenore are both companions, as well as Nandi remarking that Inara still looks the same after all those years, as though she hasn't aged...? Could it be that Inara is a superior model?

Probably not - but y'know it's interesting to speculate....

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