Wanna visit the Great Pyramids? The Sphinx ?
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
As if we have any room to talk....
Justice Department covers partially nude statues
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The department spent $8,000 on blue drapes that hide the two giant, aluminum art deco statues, said spokesman Shane Hix. For aesthetic reasons, he said, the drapes were occasionally hung in front of the statues before formal events. The department used to rent the drapes, but has now purchased them and left them hanging.
If you had any sense at all Rappy, you'd realize the greater threat of religious law comes from the very sumbitches you support, who are in truth cut from the very same cloth as the goddamned taliban, the only real DIFFERENCE is which VERSION of that vile and horrific religion they follow, cause it's not even a different one, just a slightly different aspect of the same one!
And yet both sets of dumb shits are willing to kill each other, and anyone else, over it.
I wonder though, if things might have taken a different historical path if Abrahams response had been "You want me to do WHAT ? Fuck You!"...
-Frem
I do not serve the Blind God.
Dang... you kinda stole my surprise.
And yes, ponder the irony of Ashcroft wanting to make sure that Justice and Law were blinded, covered up, and hidden from the public (and NOT just during press conferences, but constantly for over three years!) during the Bush administration.
Oh, and they covered up a couple of statues, too. :)
"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill
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( to be honest, I had figured they already had banned them... )
Well, at least you're man enough to admit when you don't know what the hell you're talking about, eh?
Actually, I wasn't talking about it in the first place. But you are correct, I'm man enough. Where as you ? Not so much.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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Covering up courthouse statues seems unnecessary and a bit childish and it isn't something I would do. But I think waxing the face of the sphynx would be even sillier because it will lose them money, no one wants to pay good money to see something that is covered up. Would that hurt that sphynx to do that? Or would it not have longterm dammaging effects, just curious, not supporting it or anything.
"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya
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You'd better hurry up then...
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Abd Al-Munim A-Shahhat, a spokesman for the Salafi group Dawa, has said that Egypt’s world-renowned pharaonic archaeology — its pyramids, Sphinx and other monuments covered with un-Islamic imagery — should also be hidden from the public eye.
“The pharaonic culture is a rotten culture,” A-Shahhat told Asharq Al-Awsat, saying the faces of ancient statues “should be covered with wax, since they are religiously forbidden.” He likened the Egyptian relics to the idols, which circled the walls of Makkah in pre-Islamic times. The challenges to the tourism industry in post-revolutionary Egypt have led to the establishment of the Coalition to Support Tourism, whose members also met with Al-Katatny.
http://arabnews.com/middleeast/article493760.ece?comments=all
Ahhh! Smells like Arab Spring !
This is one purpose of the false-flag CIA "revolutions" by the stinking Jew World Odor, to install "Islamic Fundamentalism" to destroy civilized secular nations in the Mid East to steal their wealth.
Wahabi "muslims" like the Saudi royals, Iraqi Kurds and Bin Ladens are Khazar (Turkish) jews.
http://www.rense.com/general30/balias.htm
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General Albert Pike speaks:
"The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the "agentur" (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions."
"The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm."
"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."
by General Albert Pike, British agent in the US Civil War and jewish pope of Freemasonry, letter to Giuseppe Mazzini, founder of the Mafia in Italy, in 1871
http://geraldcelentechannel.blogspot.com/2010/07/albert-pike-letter-to
-mazzini.html
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Ditto. I think the "modesty" covering up is silly, too, but not surprising given our Puritanical background. At least they weren't destroyed.
Covering up courthouse statues seems unnecessary and a bit childish.
I wish the photo of the Bamyan Buddha hadn't been put up. First, because it hurts me to be reminded. Second, because Al Qaeda are a powerful bunch of fanatics, whereas I believe there would be major outcry if someone were to actually TRY to cover up the Sphinx or other major tourist attractions. The Buddha was a tourist attraction, admittedly, but how many tourists came to Afghanistan to see it (or even knew it existed?). Third, because covering up is not destroying.
Adorable mole, tho'.
Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off 
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I heard about that Niki, it was a while ago though. How big was it? Did they destroy it completely or just knock it over? If someone doesn't like something they don't have to hang out around it.
"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya
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I've bored everyone with this before, but you DID ask, Riona! ;o) It was the Taliban, and yes, some time back--early 2001. The Bamyan Buddha was built in the 4th-5th century and was 180 feet high, carved out of a sandstone mountainside by the buddhist monks. At that time, Bamyan (which is located on the famous "Silk Road") was a thriving center for religion, philosophy, and Indian art. It was a Buddhist religious site from the 2nd century up to the time of the Islamic invasion in the 9th century. Ghengis Kahn came long and chopped off the face, and weather took most of his leg,s but the rest had endured pretty well through the centuries.
Now it looks like this: 
I visited it when we lived in Afghanistan, walked the caves where the monks hid out from good old Ghentis, and stood on the flat top of the head. There were beautifully-colored frescoes everywhere, modeled in mud mixed with straw, coated with stucco and exquisitely painted in his niche, but weather had destroyed most of them. From the top was a gorgeous view of the entire Bamyan Valley (one of the few GREEN places in Afghanistan at the time). 
You can get a feel for his size when you see it in perspective to the valley:
It was very special to me, and when they showed it being blown up on TV, I almost fell over, then cried for a couple of days. It's something I will never forget. It's one of the (many, and much more important) reasons I so despise the Taliban and fanatics in general.
The paintings in the caves still survive, and are of great historic value. Scientists have investigated the materials used on the 7th century wall paintings, and it is believed that they are the oldest known surviving examples of oil painting, possibly predating oil painting in Europe by as much as six centuries.
There was a second, smaller statue they also destroyed. In 2008, they discovered a huge statue of buddha reclining in Bamyan, and are still seeking the 1000-foot SLEEPING buddha mentioned in many reports of that area (can't find a photo of the newly-discovered one). So all is not lost, and there is a movement to restore the big guy, but I don't think it'll come to anything. Some want to restore the big guy via anastylosis, where original elements are combined with modern material (they've kept all the pieces) . UNESCO and the International Council on Monuments and Sites (ICOMOS) have put up money to do it and as of July 2011 it was being worked on, but many think the money would be better spent providing electricity and other things to a country which, when we were there, was practically just coming out of the stone age. Besides, you can't replace things like that, and most Afghans feel the empty niches should be left as monuments to the fanaticism of the Taliban.
Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
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Thank you Niki, that was interesting. Sometimes I think that people made huge monuments for the purpose of being remembered later, rather than to honor their dead or for worship purposes as most archaeologists think. Mt. Rushmore for instance, we didn't make it to worship or as a tomb for those pictured, but in thousands of years future archaeologists could think that.
Interesting that you should mention the Khan. I've become quite interested in him of late, but he was a real ruthless rutter when it came to conquering, a mean snot he was, glad they hid from him and made those amazing paintings.
I think that every person has good points and bad points, the people in power get to display both sides of themselves in public view though, so we know more about them. And the sad truth is that power tends to bring out the bad side of us.
"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya
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many think the money would be better spent providing electricity and other things to a country which, when we were there, was practically just coming out of the stone age. Besides, you can't replace things like that, and most Afghans feel the empty niches should be left as monuments to the fanaticism of the Taliban.
Indeed.
I rather think Budda would have approved of that attitude, he never did like the notion of such icons in the first place and found such veneration appalling when folks spent effort on it instead of spreading what he was trying to teach.
Oh, and Riona, you should also check out Tamerlane, man, that was one nasty piece of work, he was.
-Frem
I do not serve the Blind God.
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Wow Niki, you got to actually see the Giant Buddha. How amazing. I have a friend who travelled there in thr 70's and showed me photos recently. Like you, she was devestated when they were destroyed.
It's nothing new. Religious fanatics despise all over religions and it has been rife through history and it wouldn't be the first time in Epyptian history. The Pharoah Akhenaten had his face removed from all iconography depicting him because of religious reasons. The practise, known as iconoclasm, has a long and illustrious history and is not limited to one religion. From wiki
* In Judaism, King Hezekiah purged Solomon's Temple in Jerusalem and the Land of Israel of figures, including the Nehushtan, as recorded in the Second Book of Kings. His reforms were reversed in the reign of his son Manasseh.
* A Midrash included in Genesis Rabba attributes a major act of iconoclasm to Abraham. This is not attested in the Biblical account of the Partriarch's life, but is an important aspect of Abraham's character in later Jewish tradition.
* The Roman Empire's polytheist state religion's images were destroyed during the process of Christianisation.
* In the world of Islam, there have been various periods of iconoclasm against images of other religions (e.g., Christianity, Buddhism,[2] etc.) and those produced within Islam.
* Byzantine iconoclasm in the Eastern Orthodox Church, of its own religious imagery.
* The Beeldenstorm in Europe during the Protestant Reformation and the religious conflicts following, with Protestants destroying traditional (by then considered Catholic imagery) or sometimes Protestant imagery.
* Most of the moai of Easter Island were toppled during the 18th century in the iconoclasm of civil wars.
* During the French Revolution, people widely destroyed religious and monarchical imagery.
* During and after the Russian Revolution, there was widespread destruction of religious and secular imagery.
* During and after the Communist overthrow of the Chinese monarchy, as well as during the later Cultural Revolution, there was widespread destruction of religious and secular imagery in China, including in Tibet.
* In the Roman Catholic Church after the Second Vatican Council, much of its traditional imagery, art, and architecture was discarded.[citation needed]
* Statues of Stalin, from as early as 1956 in Budapest, continuing sporadically through the fall of Communism and into the present day.[3]
* Statues of Lenin and Felix Dzerzhinsky in formerly-communist Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union.
* The Taliban's destruction of two ancient statues of Buddha at Bamyan in Afghanistan.
These of course dont account for the destruction caused by simple plundering of religious and cultural icons, and it is worth noting that we don't seem to mind a bit of tomb raiding if there is treasure to be had, and I include peeps such as Howard Carter and the Earl of Elgin.
So the practise sucks, but its not new and its not an especially Muslim feature.
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