Why Firefly deserved to die
POSTED BY: xed
UPDATED: Thursday, December 19, 2024 02:34
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I GET IT, VERY FUNNY. YOU OBVIOUSLY WANT TO TURN FIREFLY IN TO STAR TREK........HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.
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Originally posted by millernate:
Could someone explain why I got a "could not authenticate login" reply leading me to double post (of which this is a hasty edit to ask instead of double posting)?
Happened to me too. In fact, I kept get an error message and actually posted 6 times (no double posts for me!) before I figured out it was actually posting.
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Originally posted by FireFlea:
- the overdone cowboy dialogue really wears on me. Ya'll ain't might reckon not.
Most people who talk like that are poor/uneducated people it reflect the reality cause many people like them talk like that today so it gives the character some reality
- guest characters are more interesting than the regular cast.
Opinion not a fact
- half-explained plotlines or situations. What is this power that River has? What is Book's past? (I realize these would/have have been explained at some point, it's just getting dull)
If they start explaining every mistery in the first 5 hours of show what will be left to tell in the future really? It would be like if John Doe found out who he really is during the pilot it doesn't make any sense to rush those thing.
- using guns that would be considered antique even in 2002, let alone the distant future.
Just because it's 500 years in the future doesn't mean that old/inexpensive and good working technology can't be used. What really tell us that laser will be cheap by that time?
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Originally posted by millernate:Quote:
If it looks like a troll and smells like a troll, it usually is a troll. If Xed meant to simply spark a dicussion, why did she/he post once and vanish?
Well, by the same token, if he's a troll then why does it show him as having signed up for an account all the way back in September? IF he'd been a troll we'd have seen something from him well before now (self-control is not high on trolls set of characteristics). Also, the fact that he used genuine examples to back up his points, as opposed to the usual vague canned criticisms, would indicate that he could be serious in his statement. Do I agree with him? No, the fact that all his examples came only from the first episode completely undermines his case. But I don't think we can completely write him off as a troll either.
Millernate, you're obviously a more charitable person than I am.
In my online experience (which goes back to 1983 and The Source, which predated CompuServe), when a person wants to start discussion they usually stick around to um...discuss. Any time someone drops deliberately inflammatory statements and vanishes I smell a troll. Call me an ornery old bitch.
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Rhea:
Ornery old bitch!
just kidding. I'm with you. What's with the "i hate firefly" post on a firefly fans board? I'm thinking Troll.
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That kid was tox-ic when he came in here tonight. Heavy on the “ick”.
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- the overdone cowboy dialogue really wears on me. Ya'll ain't might reckon not.
Actually, since I'm a fan of both sci-fi and westerns, it's something I really don't even notice. Heck, I take calls from Texas and Montana all day. "Cowboy-speak" apparantly never went out of style in some places.
Plus, if you've heard Jerry "Lt. Lenny Brascoe" Orbach try to do a John Wayne accent (I am so not kidding), Mal sounds normal in comparison.
- guest characters are more interesting than the regular cast.
I think the regulars are quite fascinating!
- half-explained plotlines or situations. What is this power that River has? What is Book's past? (I realize these would/have have been explained at some point, it's just getting dull)
Dude, it's SEASON 1! If this show lasts, we are going to find out the answers to these questions. Heck, XF didn't launch its "conspiracy" mytharc until the end of Season 1. DS9's Dominion wasn't seen until Season 2, Babylon 5's Season 1 left a lot to be desired, too.
- using guns that would be considered antique even in 2002, let alone the distant future.
Now here, I'll grant another point. Even now, we have tazers, and are working on the step past slug throwers. It's akin to saying in 1600 that we'd still be using swords and mounted cavalry.
"Ariel" showed the Alliance as having laser guns and the like, but I'm guessing that kind of tech is expensive. Back in the boonies, a slug thrower is cheap and very effective.
Co-founder of the Evil Writing Crew - causing hell, one hero at a time!
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Originally posted by outlander:
I GET IT, VERY FUNNY. YOU OBVIOUSLY WANT TO TURN FIREFLY IN TO STAR TREK.
Nope, I just think there are a lot of fans that want less hick talk, cows, horses, covered wagons, biscuits & fried chicken (on a spaceship) and antique six shooters in a science fiction show. Cross genre shows, while unique, often don't sit well with viewers. I mean c'mon...lets be a little realistic. Was space colonized 200 years ago and we missed it? Don't call it science fiction and make it something else.
As I've said previously, the ONLY saving grace about this show are the characters.
I like the show, but a lot of you people are coming across as hardcore fanboys (girls) who turn a blind eye to any criticism of this show.
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Originally posted by UFO:
I like the show, but a lot of you people are coming across as hardcore fanboys (girls) who turn a blind eye to any criticism of this show.
I do not turn a blind eye. I just happen to like the things that you consider flaws. Having a different opinion on a topic doesn't mean I can't see fault in the show.
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But it'll be fun. No wait, I mean it'll get us all killed.
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(1) Depressing storyline? I think the general audience craves something more than pablum, o'wise we'd be watching Disney 24/7.
(2) Half of the fun... heck, MOST of the fun... is in figuring stuff out. (Unless one has NVLD, where everything has to be spelled out.)
(3) Didn't see "the Train Job", but for comparison, doesn't "Out of Gas" break up action sequences too? And yet it was remarkably successful in holding viewer's attention.
(4)See my answer to (1). Being heroic doesn't mean that the charcters are guaranteed successful outcomes. In fact, the most interesting thing about Firefly is how far the characters will bend... or not... knowing that a "happy ending" isn't likely. The basis of a lot of story telling is conflict. If the end is already known, where's the conflict?
My main gripe with Firefly is whole-cloth reproduction of hillbilly/Old South/Western effects/stereotypes to convey the "rawness" of the setting. Integrating that harshness into a sci-fi needs more thought.
Thank god for no holodecks!
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