Five Things Obama Should Do
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UPDATED: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 09:44
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Originally posted by m52nickerson:Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Well, he won't do the first one because he's enjoying his 5 star vacation retreat too much. And if he has to come back to the White House, he'll actually have to do some work. Work he's not cut out for, and it shows.
Yup, he has done a damn thing...except!
http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
Meanwhile, where is Congress?
And where are all those jobs the tea-baggers promised?
"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill
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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Yup, he has done a damn thing...except!
http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/]
A complete load of 100% crap.
Thanks for sharing.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
A complete load of 100% crap.
Thanks for sharing.
Really, how so? Can I get a citation that it is crap, because each item that pops up from the website has a cited link that goes with it.
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Obama needs to set out a CLEAR PLAN for economic recovery, and STICK WITH IT.
Actually, he should have done that in 2009, when he had majorities in both Houses.
Pres. Obama had several problems, not all of his making.
- His party couldn't get together on health care, or pretty much anything else, and wasted an opportunity to get stuff done in internecine squabbling.
- Most of the folks who voted for him and the Democratic majority in 2008 apparently decided "Well, we elected you. Our job is done here." and didn't put any pressure on their congressmen to get on the ball and pass the stuff promised in the 2008 campaign.
- Pres. Obama didn't lead from the front, leaving his Congress with no direction and allowing the disorganization that tends to occur if Democrats don't have a strong leader. Like Will Rogers said. "I am not a member of any organized party — I am a Democrat."
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Quote:Rappy is 100% fact-free, so... take that as you will.
Really, how so? Can I get a citation that it is crap, because each item that pops up from the website has a cited link that goes with it.
AFA as what Obama has "done"... in any NORMAL term of office that would have been good stuff. Good enough, anyway. But this isn't normal times. Whatever Obama's plans were for what he wanted to do when he became President pale in comparison to what was required.
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Originally posted by Geezer:Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Obama needs to set out a CLEAR PLAN for economic recovery, and STICK WITH IT.
Actually, he should have done that in 2009, when he had majorities in both Houses.
Pres. Obama had several problems, not all of his making.
- His party couldn't get together on health care, or pretty much anything else, and wasted an opportunity to get stuff done in internecine squabbling.
- Most of the folks who voted for him and the Democratic majority in 2008 apparently decided "Well, we elected you. Our job is done here." and didn't put any pressure on their congressmen to get on the ball and pass the stuff promised in the 2008 campaign.
- Pres. Obama didn't lead from the front, leaving his Congress with no direction and allowing the disorganization that tends to occur if Democrats don't have a strong leader. Like Will Rogers said. "I am not a member of any organized party — I am a Democrat."
Painful, but true - worth taking as constructive criticism, that.
Of course, my opinion is that first thing, A-number one, he needs to reach down, find a pair, and put his boot up the ass of folk supposedly on his own side who won't get with the program, and then apply that boot solidly to folks on the other who sandbag useful things for partisan reasons while not offering any kind of alternative whatever.
As for five things...
ONE: Close Gitmo immediately, either repatriate em or lock em up here - it's mere existence is a provocation to every country on the planet, costs us even the pretense of moral high ground and negatively impacts all our diplomatic efforts worldwide be they political or economic.
TWO: Iraq, out, now. (1)
THREE: Afghanistan, out, now. (1)
FOUR: Go through the so-called "defense" budget with a chainsaw, no more welfare for the war machine.
FIVE: Buckle down and get to work on repairing our own economic and physical infrastructure before it falls apart completely.
And here's the sad thing - let's not bullshit ourselves, everyone here who isn't completely delusional knows damn well by now we're gonna get stuck with Obama for another term, let's acknowledge this pathetic, ugly reality and make plans accordingly rather than hoping and wishing for pie in the sky and basing our hopes on wishful thinking, okay ?
And because of that, Geezer makes excellent point about OUR responsibility in this: when voters broke the Republican majority, they didn't keep the pressure on and those candidates rolled over almost immediately, and so too with the election of Obama - gettin em into office is the EASY part, but the job ain't done till you put the arm on them and MAKE them serve your will, and if they do not, will not, then you REMOVE them, something at least two bastards in Wisconsin just learned is still quite possible despite how fucked up and corrupt our election systems are.
So don't think it's all gonna get better just cause you got a smooth talker into the chair, you damn well had best keep your thumb on them or you might as well not have bothered.
-Frem
(1)side note, ok *now* does anyone care to change their opinion of my assertion that sending assassins after Saddam and Osama woulda been a cleaner, cheaper, more effective way to do this ?
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Frem, you know I'm all for sending secret assassins to get rid of bad dictators so we don't get blamed for it, but so the bad dictators are no more. I think that if people of a country want it done and have a good plan for what to do once its done then said covert secret organization (I pretend it is called the Quadruple S) goes in and takes care of it clean like with no trail back to the US of A. It would indeed be way easier to do it this way then to get involved in all these wars. You know that's been my position from the get go since I started posting here.
"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya
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Problem is, Riona - america already has em, whether we choose to admit it openly or not, only they don't knock off the bad guys, they knock off the good guys to prop up the bad guys in exchange for carte blanche to loot the country out from under em.
This whole ball of wax in the middle east, well, it started earlier, sure, but the spark that lit the powder keg was the assassination of Mossedeigh back in 1953, and a coup staged by the combined efforts of US and British forces.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat#Execution
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This lead to putting The Shah in charge, and our goons helping out his notoriously evil SAVAK death squads in cleaning house of anyone opposed to him, but was eventually counterproductive, as all brutality is, and lead to the 1979 revolution that lofted the radical islamics into power under Ayatolla Khomeni, who had some pretty damn good reasons to hate our guts by then, you see.
And so we went and propped up this other crazy bastard, one Saddam Hussien, and encouraged him to wage war on Iran, even going so far as to give him fighter jets, at least one AWACS (which landed in Iran to evade us during Desert Storm and the Iranians seized it, mind you) and of course biological and chemical weapons.
This while propping up ANOTHER dickhead by the name of Osama Bin Laden and encouraging him to whup Soviet ass in Afghanistan based on the promise that we'd come help restore what was left of the country afterwords, a promise we broke, while deliberately leaving his ass swinging in the breeze at the end in hopes the Soviets would wipe him and his Mujas out as they left, only we underestimated both his intelligence (he was smart enough to not trust us when we tried to set him up) and just how bent on getting the hell out of there the Soviets were by then.
This stupidity has also kept bastards in power, Fidel Castro maintained enough support to stay in power in part BECAUSE of our endless attempts to replace him with a more friendly tyrant, and the even cuban people who hated his ass saw him as a check against american exploitation and aggression - this is also the attitude in a lot of the middle east towards the radical islamics, they *HATE* those fuckers, but since they're the only folk over there with a proven, documented history of kicking our ass, they feel that they NEED them, like a big mean ass gaurd dog, to keep the americans from taking over and looting their country, which is indeed what we're kinda trying to do.
Same with Hugo Chavez, who might be mad with power, and more than half crazy, but stupid the man is NOT, first thing he did was kick out the IMF/WTO and demand our oil companies pay their rent, then seized and nationalised the fields when they refused, and rolled that money into just enough military gear to give us a bloody nose and make other countries look more tempting, since unlike Kim Jong he didn't have a nuke to threaten us with.
At least one of our really blatant coup attempts was in fact foiled by a massive response of his own people.
And then there's Haiti, and Papa Doc, and what we did to Aristead... and let's not even speak of fuckin nicaruagua...
So you could kinda say the current total freakin disaster is all more or less a direct RESULT of our goon squads playing these games, you see ?
What I had meant was rather than goon squads, put it out as an open contract and let the "free market" take care of it, say... 10 million USD to the guy who brings us their head, for example.
Even if no one took us up on it (very likely cause we're not known for keeping our promises) it'd still drive them underground and break up any support for em cause they'd be lookin over their shoulder forever, problem solved.
Oh, on that note lemme quote Clint Eastwood here.
"Ain't nothin wrong with shooting, long as the right people get shot."
Were it me, I'd start in Langley and Quantico, cause all this bullshit comes as a direct result of the inevitable backlash from the actions of the very people supposedly-in-theory wh
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