Could Poverty, Income Inequalities in US Lead to UK-Like Riots?
POSTED BY: Niki2
UPDATED: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 03:18
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Do I think its possible? Yeah, people are people no matter where you go, no matter what century we're in, no matter their ethnicity or country of origin. So its possible. I hope it doesn't happen here, especially not in my backyard (yeah I know that saying is over used, but you know what I mean here, that's scary stuff). How likely do I think it is? Well in my city I doubt it would come to that but I don't know about other cities. I think most of this discussion is interesting though and that people are talking productively about it which is pretty cool, most of this discussion.
"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya
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It's possible. Hell, it's even LIKELY.
Most of America's cities are never much more than one cop beat-down away from these same kinds of riots.
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I love how the more moronic elements of the right are blaming this on liberal policy.... any excuse to push an agenda I suppose.
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Charly Brooker in the Guardian, brilliant.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/14/charlie-brooker-pr
event-more-riots
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Frem,
You cam see their "readiness" all over the satelite picture. The one everyone misses is the most obvious: the real point of the autobahn is to be able to deliber panzers pronto to any trouble spot.
Niki
No, it didn't occur, because it already happened here.
Economic disparity? Please, spare us. What you're looking at is organized crime, with some overtones of racism, but I already spelled his out in the other thread.
Wulf,
Ya missed new orleans, but I see mike already made that point. And detroit.
That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.
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DT, you make communication virtually impossible when you spout idiocy like " the real point of the autobahn is to be able to deliber panzers pronto to any trouble spot". Must TRULY be awful, being you and seeing shadows in every corner, I don't know how you get through the day, honestly I don't!
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Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off 
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He's actually not that far off the mark, strangely enough, Niki - not conventionally, but historically most highway infrastructure, dating back to the days of rome, was initially intended to move large bodies of troops, both our railroad system (Civil War) and our interstate highway system (Eisenhower) were at certain times upgraded for exactly that purpose as well.
Although I kinda doubt moving tanks on it is the current purpose, sure - you still COULD, if you wanted to, and didn't care what it did to the road, either by chewing it up (Tank treads are murder on roads, and when they do parades they use special rubber track blocks which only last a few miles) or by the weight damaging the integrity of the surface material.
-Frem
I do not serve the Blind God.
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Frem
Thanks. I was just stating history. The interstate is a pretty clear copy, not surprisingly coming after our inheritance of german engineers.
We don't have panzers, and prefer to dloy personnel carriers, but the deployment of Panzers is not hell on the highway: you don't *drive* the Panzers *on* the highway, you put them on the back of trucks which you then drive trucks on the highway. The fact that military equipment was to be carried on the back of flatbed trucks is given away by the vertical clearance regulations for overpasses.
There's little call for deploykng tanks to the continental US, but there was a lot in nazi germany. Still, there are many types of military deployment which could serve domestic purpose.
For human civilian transportation, the interstate highway system is a terrible one. They only save time when you are travelling across the exact same line, and for the same price you could have gotten a far more efficient railroad system.
Another curious spec for the system is that curves be optimized as banked for 90 mph traffic.
Niki
Paranoia is seeing threats which are not there. The condition of not seeing threats which actually are there falls under polyanna syndrome.
That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.
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They call those "hemmits" or something DT, and they still screw up the road cause they're too goddamn heavy and damage its integrity that way.
As for APCs, while it's not been so public, them bastards up there at Grayling been playin with the new ones DESIGNED for domestic use, damn things even have turn signals on em, for cryin out loud.
-F
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Damn I hate being right, while not utility infrastructure, this particular bit of bullshit was brought to my attention recently.
SF transit blocks cellphones to disrupt protest
http://news.yahoo.com/sf-transit-blocks-cellphones-disrupt-protest-180
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Certainly a first amendment issue, and IMHO also fraud/theft by depriving people of service they paid for, beyond which that might have impinged upon 911 access so it's also a safety issue.
Little known fact, ANY cellphone, even one with no service connected to it, no minutes on it, so long as it has power, *will* connect to 911 if dialed, making even otherwise useless cellphones a handy emergency device, just so you know.
Anyhows, looks like SF Transit took a page from foreign dictators, and that'll work even less well here cause for damn sure GeekFarm *already* had available cell-frequency repeaters in anticipation of just this sort of eventuality.
They do need a civil engineer for certain other preparation-projects, but the only one I know is an old russian guy who lives in some podunk town - he's pretty cool, although I thought him a bit loony for travelling 200 miles to Moscow just to get the crap beat out of him by their police...
He's openly homosexual, which is something still kinda frowned upon over there, but in his home village nobody will mess with him over it cause he's the guy who keeps the power and water up and running - but he felt the need to stand up for it even if it meant getting his ass kicked, meh.
-Frem
I do not serve the Blind God.
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