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Why Firefly deserved to die

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Tuesday, December 3, 2002 3:26 AM

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If it looks like a troll and smells like a troll, it usually is a troll. If Xed meant to simply spark a dicussion, why did she/he post once and vanish?



Well, by the same token, if he's a troll then why does it show him as having signed up for an account all the way back in September? IF he'd been a troll we'd have seen something from him well before now (self-control is not high on trolls set of characteristics). Also, the fact that he used genuine examples to back up his points, as opposed to the usual vague canned criticisms, would indicate that he could be serious in his statement. Do I agree with him? No, the fact that all his examples came only from the first episode completely undermines his case. But I don't think we can completely write him off as a troll either.

Nathan
"It looks like a great adventure...That's what it is; that's what it feels like. When I saw the pilot, it was really engaging. It was exciting. It was unusual. It threw me off every now and then. I think people will be grabbed by it." - Ron Glass, on the pilot, during an interview with the Indianapolis Star

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Tuesday, December 3, 2002 3:26 AM

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If it looks like a troll and smells like a troll, it usually is a troll. If Xed meant to simply spark a dicussion, why did she/he post once and vanish?



Well, by the same token, if he's a troll then why does it show him as having signed up for an account all the way back in September? IF he'd been a troll we'd have seen something from him well before now (self-control is not high on trolls set of characteristics). Also, the fact that he used genuine examples to back up his points, as opposed to the usual vague canned criticisms, would indicate that he could be serious in his statement. Do I agree with him? No, the fact that all his examples came only from the first episode completely undermines his case. But I don't think we can completely write him off as a troll either.

Nathan
"It looks like a great adventure...That's what it is; that's what it feels like. When I saw the pilot, it was really engaging. It was exciting. It was unusual. It threw me off every now and then. I think people will be grabbed by it." - Ron Glass, on the pilot, during an interview with the Indianapolis Star

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Tuesday, December 3, 2002 3:26 AM

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If it looks like a troll and smells like a troll, it usually is a troll. If Xed meant to simply spark a dicussion, why did she/he post once and vanish?



Well, by the same token, if he's a troll then why does it show him as having signed up for an account all the way back in September? IF he'd been a troll we'd have seen something from him well before now (self-control is not high on trolls set of characteristics). Also, the fact that he used genuine examples to back up his points, as opposed to the usual vague canned criticisms, would indicate that he could be serious in his statement. Do I agree with him? No, the fact that all his examples came only from the first episode completely undermines his case. But I don't think we can completely write him off as a troll either.

Nathan
"It looks like a great adventure...That's what it is; that's what it feels like. When I saw the pilot, it was really engaging. It was exciting. It was unusual. It threw me off every now and then. I think people will be grabbed by it." - Ron Glass, on the pilot, during an interview with the Indianapolis Star

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Tuesday, December 3, 2002 3:26 AM

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If it looks like a troll and smells like a troll, it usually is a troll. If Xed meant to simply spark a dicussion, why did she/he post once and vanish?



Well, by the same token, if he's a troll then why does it show him as having signed up for an account all the way back in September? IF he'd been a troll we'd have seen something from him well before now (self-control is not high on trolls set of characteristics). Also, the fact that he used genuine examples to back up his points, as opposed to the usual vague canned criticisms, would indicate that he could be serious in his statement. Do I agree with him? No, the fact that all his examples came only from the first episode completely undermines his case. But I don't think we can completely write him off as a troll either.

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Tuesday, December 3, 2002 3:27 AM

Could someone explain why I got a "could not authenticate login" reply leading me to double post (of which this is a hasty edit to ask instead of double posting)?

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Tuesday, December 3, 2002 4:18 AM

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Originally posted by fireflyfan:
It seems to me that a very angry person wrote those comments. Maybe you are angry about other things that are going on in your life and are powerless to change them. Therefore, you take the time and effort to watch the show and then spend 30 minutes blasting it. If you can't blast the situations or persons that are making you miserable, you can take your frustrations out on a website and then sit back and chuckle when fans come to the rescue. So you know some screen-writing jargon. Big Deal! I must agree with others who say you must not be paying attention. We have had no problem following storylines. You are probably so stressed out you can't keep your mind on the show. So why don't you chill out, keep your comments to yourself and let the rest of us enjoy the best scifi show in a decade.

Lets get this strate,1.BABYLON 5 is the best sci-fi show ever!!!
Then its FARSCAPE, after that its the PRISINOR,then FIRSTWAVE,then CURSADES,then BLAKE 7, after that FIREFLY may get the node, but firefly is origins in nature and story but IF i HAD TO CHOOSE,I would go for "STARGATE" instead sorry but you need a reality check.
I watched all the episode twice and taped them and must say it nneds some polishing up to break into the top 5 "SCI-FI" show and its still early, but who knows after two or three years it may just do that,and then you can say its one of the best .
But untill then let thing roll on and hope it make the "CUT" of "FOXES" sharp knives!!!

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Tuesday, December 3, 2002 4:19 AM

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Originally posted by fireflyfan:
It seems to me that a very angry person wrote those comments. Maybe you are angry about other things that are going on in your life and are powerless to change them. Therefore, you take the time and effort to watch the show and then spend 30 minutes blasting it. If you can't blast the situations or persons that are making you miserable, you can take your frustrations out on a website and then sit back and chuckle when fans come to the rescue. So you know some screen-writing jargon. Big Deal! I must agree with others who say you must not be paying attention. We have had no problem following storylines. You are probably so stressed out you can't keep your mind on the show. So why don't you chill out, keep your comments to yourself and let the rest of us enjoy the best scifi show in a decade.

Lets get this strate,1.BABYLON 5 is the best sci-fi show ever!!!
Then its FARSCAPE, after that its the PRISINOR,then FIRSTWAVE,then CURSADES,then BLAKE 7, after that FIREFLY may get the node, but firefly is origins in nature and story but IF i HAD TO CHOOSE,I would go for "STARGATE" instead sorry but you need a reality check.
I watched all the episode twice and taped them and must say it nneds some polishing up to break into the top 5 "SCI-FI" show and its still early, but who knows after two or three years it may just do that,and then you can say its one of the best .
But untill then let thing roll on and hope it make the "CUT" of "FOXES" sharp knives!!!

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Tuesday, December 3, 2002 4:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fireflyfan:
It seems to me that a very angry person wrote those comments. Maybe you are angry about other things that are going on in your life and are powerless to change them. Therefore, you take the time and effort to watch the show and then spend 30 minutes blasting it. If you can't blast the situations or persons that are making you miserable, you can take your frustrations out on a website and then sit back and chuckle when fans come to the rescue. So you know some screen-writing jargon. Big Deal! I must agree with others who say you must not be paying attention. We have had no problem following storylines. You are probably so stressed out you can't keep your mind on the show. So why don't you chill out, keep your comments to yourself and let the rest of us enjoy the best scifi show in a decade.

Lets get this strate,1.BABYLON 5 is the best sci-fi show ever!!!
Then its FARSCAPE, after that its the PRISINOR,then FIRSTWAVE,then CURSADES,then BLAKE 7, after that FIREFLY may get the node, but firefly is origins in nature and story but IF i HAD TO CHOOSE,I would go for "STARGATE" instead sorry but you need a reality check.
I watched all the episode twice and taped them and must say it nneds some polishing up to break into the top 5 "SCI-FI" show and its still early, but who knows after two or three years it may just do that,and then you can say its one of the best .
But untill then let thing roll on and hope it make the "CUT" of "FOXES" sharp knives!!!

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Tuesday, December 3, 2002 5:16 AM

Maybe my nitpickishness is excessive, but I think I remember them saying the world of Firefly was modeled (at least in part) on the post US Civil War era ("reconstruction" I believe). In this case the main characters are in a position similar to that of Confederate soldiers after the war.

Personally I'd love to see the show last long enough to be able to play with other views of the Alliance, but...

(Not that any of this really addresses what the poster was saying. )

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Tuesday, December 3, 2002 8:16 AM

I love the show, but admit there's things that made me realize it couldn't last.

- the overdone cowboy dialogue really wears on me. Ya'll ain't might reckon not.
- guest characters are more interesting than the regular cast.
- half-explained plotlines or situations. What is this power that River has? What is Book's past? (I realize these would/have have been explained at some point, it's just getting dull)
- using guns that would be considered antique even in 2002, let alone the distant future.

Hopefully the show is just on hiatus and comes back even better because I really think it doesn't deserve to die.

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