London Burning
POSTED BY: piratenews
UPDATED: Friday, November 28, 2025 17:01
VIEWED: 8494
PAGE 8 of 10
Oh, lord, I just LOVE it! Wulf's instinctive reaction to this entire story seems to be "GUNS!" Wow.
I've avoided this thread because I've seen enough of what's happening on TV to make me very, very sad, and I don't want to dwell on it any more than that. I feel for the people rioting, and I feel for those they are damaging, but most of all I fear for all of them (and us, if it gives people here any ideas...or when the gulf becomes so gigantic, while we watch our benefits and safety nets being cut more and more, that AMERICANS take to the streets, too.)
Just occurred to me; for all the Tea Party's rantings about "second-amendment solutions", etc., it might be the people they're willing to shaft who end up using that "solution" to target THEM! Gawd forbid.
Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off 
NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
I think the thing that bothers me most about rioting is the wanton distruction of things that don't even relate to the original problem. I could sympathize better with them if they'd gone in and burnt down the local police station since police brutality was what supposedly started this mess. That would have at least made sense. But this was something different, something undefined and chaotic that just ccaused trouble and no one will remember later why the whole thing started, they'll just remember stupid people randomly setting fires to busses and sstealing big screen TVs and shooting folk and running them over. Meaninglessness.
"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya
NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Guess this story has passed out of the collective consciousness of those gathered here.
No, we've been discussing it on a daily basis. I noticed you haven't been around, though. Maybe it just slipped out of YOUR consciousness.
Quote:
Noone has mentioned that the catalyst of this hooliganism, was started because the Brits shot a guy who they thought might have been armed.. (gun control works, really)
I thought you said it was because of "liberal entitlements". Do you think being shot by the police is an entitlement?
Quote:
Look at the future folks. Britain is a libs wet dream. Look where it got them. Or Norway (in terms of gun control).
Yes, they have an awful lot less gun crime than we do, don't they? They kill literally TENS OF THOUSANDS LESS PEOPLE EVERY YEAR WITH GUNS THAN AMERICA DOES.
How awful it must be for them. Now, this guy who was shot was claimed to be armed. Look how well that turned out for him! Look how well he was able to defend himself!
"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill
NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Quote:
Originally posted by Niki2:
Oh, lord, I just LOVE it! Wulf's instinctive reaction to this entire story seems to be "GUNS!" Wow.
I've avoided this thread because I've seen enough of what's happening on TV to make me very, very sad, and I don't want to dwell on it any more than that. I feel for the people rioting, and I feel for those they are damaging, but most of all I fear for all of them (and us, if it gives people here any ideas...or when the gulf becomes so gigantic, while we watch our benefits and safety nets being cut more and more, that AMERICANS take to the streets, too.)
Just occurred to me; for all the Tea Party's rantings about "second-amendment solutions", etc., it might be the people they're willing to shaft who end up using that "solution" to target THEM! Gawd forbid.
Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off
Yes, apparently Wulfie thinks that the rioters would be very much more well-behaved if they just had more guns with which to fight the police while rioting.
Odd logic, I'll grant you, but he does indeed want everyone armed, which logically includes the mobs doing the damage already.
"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill
NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Quote:
Originally posted by RionaEire:
I think the thing that bothers me most about rioting is the wanton distruction of things that don't even relate to the original problem. I could sympathize better with them if they'd gone in and burnt down the local police station since police brutality was what supposedly started this mess. That would have at least made sense. But this was something different, something undefined and chaotic that just ccaused trouble and no one will remember later why the whole thing started, they'll just remember stupid people randomly setting fires to busses and sstealing big screen TVs and shooting folk and running them over. Meaninglessness.
"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya
Yes to this. I'm with you. The destruction IS meaningless, and it COULD have meaning. As you said, aim it at something at least tangentially related to the cause of the anger: police and politicians. Or even Rupert Murdoch.
"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill
NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
It's what happens when people are not invested in the society, b/c the society is not invested in them. Cause and effect.
NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Quote:
Look where it got them. Or Norway (in terms of gun control).
Yeah, because the US never has any shooting sprees...
It's not personal. It's just war.
NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
It's what happens when people are not invested in the society, b/c the society is not invested in them. Cause and effect.
Why should society be invested in them? True freedom involves personal responsibility, and self determination. Seems those things are an anathema to the socialist culture.
Not enough that the people are provided national defense, clean streets, utilities, fire and police ( ha ) protection.... is it?
No, the folks NOW demand free healthcare, art galleries, jobs, shag lessons...
NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Not enough that the people are provided national defense, clean streets, utilities, fire and police ( ha ) protection.... is it?
You realize, of course, that in at least some parts of London, they are "provided" none of those things at present.
Seems you agree that they have good reason to riot, since they're getting none of the things even a bare-bones government should "provide"!
"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill
NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Quote:
Originally posted by kpo:Quote:
Look where it got them. Or Norway (in terms of gun control).
Yeah, because the US never has any shooting sprees...
It's not personal. It's just war.
Yup. We had a couple more just over the past weekend! Heck, it's damned near a national pastime these days.
Wulfie completely dismisses the fact that nearly as many people are killed by guns in the U.S. every single day as were killed by a right-wing religious nut in Norway in a one-time spree.
"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill
NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME