London Burning
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I love when the Brits act this way. How did we beat em? Oh yeah that huge ocean!!!!
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14450248
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Originally posted by Geezer:Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Geezer
Your historical view is stuck on 'quaint'.
I think not.
Nevertheless, name a social change in the U.S. that was caused exclusively or mostly by violence on the part of the people protesting for it.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
I'd say the founding of the United States itself qualifies.
'Course, technically it doesn't, because it wasn't actually in "the United States" when it happened, but it IS how our nation was born, in violent protest.
In fact, there's even a little-known political movement that's sprung up in the last couple years in this country that bears the name of a violent political protest which helped launch this country. They call themselves a "Tea Party" of some sort; you may have heard of them.
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During the L.A. Riots, Korean shop owners finally had enough and defended their property.
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Geezer
Biggest march you never heard of - they politely marched, cleaned up the trash and went home. Oh, and got nowhere.
2004 March for Women's Lives
It does take a while, sometimes. Do you think looting the Smithsonian and blowing up the Washington Monument would have accomplished more?
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
I'd say the founding of the United States itself qualifies.
I'd consider that more of a political than a social change, but possibly. The other contender might be Emancipation during and after the Civil War, but that was largely due to political expediency rather than social pressure.
ETA: At least you've gotten closer than Kiki to an answer.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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The abolition of slavery in the U.S. was also quite a violent social change...
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While I know there were political and other reasons, I believe that the massive protests of the Vietnam War were contributory to our getting out. The ones I took part in were all peaceful, as I believe the majority of them were.
Did the LA riots actually cause any social change, or improve things? I dunno, it's not something I've ever read anyone following up on, so I'm curious.
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Originally posted by Geezer:Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
I'd say the founding of the United States itself qualifies.
I'd consider that more of a political than a social change, but possibly. The other contender might be Emancipation during and after the Civil War, but that was largely due to political expediency rather than social pressure.
ETA: At least you've gotten closer than Kiki to an answer.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
I think we're generally on the same page here, Geezer. Violence HAS been used to foment change, but generally speaking, things tend to go better for those seeking that change when they AREN'T the violent ones, but rather the ones who are having the violence done to them.
The Vietnam protests really took on a new life once four college kids were murdered for peacefully protesting in Ohio, for instance; the onus was on the PRO-war folks to try to explain their actions after those events.
If you ever said "Support the Troops!", you are a socialist. You've taken money from me, by force and at gunpoint, and you've given it to people who are on a mission I don't support, and are murdering others in my name, and I am given no choice in the matter.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14452097
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