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Chemicals may be a growing export for the US, but it is not the top export nor the only one.
http://www.worldsrichestcountries.com/top_us_exports.html
Civilian aircraft are the largest export.
Yes everything is bad in sufficient doses. Many of those things are also good at lower doses. Without some of those chemicals we don't grow enough food to feed everyone.
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
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I was wrong to say there's "no" manufacturing, which would have been wrong even if manufacturing was on the decline. I was exaggerating.
But I also don't think we're exactly on stable ground, and when you say that we're fourth in the world, you have to consider that's out of not a large number of fully developed nations. And if you say that we're second (which I'm not sure about, simply because of Japan and Germany), then you have to compare that to CHINA.
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Yes everything is bad in sufficient doses. Many of those things are also good at lower doses. Without some of those chemicals we don't grow enough food to feed everyone.
Food grows fine on it's own, some of the chemicals we're putting on things are really a do not want.
We have food surplus, and destroy food to keep prices up. This is another side effect of corn ethanol, which the corn lobby wants because corn becomes more expensive.
I'm just saying, things aren't looking good.
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Food grows fine, if you have the right soil and conditions. We in the US has some surplus, other countries don't.
I just disagree with you. I don't think things are as bad as you do.
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
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There's some irrigation issues in some nations, and it doesn't help if crops are non-native to the area and climate. And there are some places that have abused their land so much that not much grows there.
Otherwise I'd say that famine is caused by drought and warfare, and not lack of pesticides.
Chemical manufacturing isn't very good, and particularly not the specific sector of growth we're talking about here.
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Pesticides are not the whole story. Nutrients such are phosphates are also needed.
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
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I'm with Byte on the use of pesticides. We put so much money into R&D to find the CHEAPEST way to attain whatever we want; if we put all that energy, money and time into finding OTHER ways to protect crops, just imagine what we could do.
I don't believe pesticides are "necessary", and the harm they do far outweighs any benefits, to me. We need to find better ways.
And we DEFINITELY need to work on our manufacturing sector; in my opinion we have been steadily losing ground where that's concerned, and it's part of what made us so "great" (as in, "richer than third-world countries", if you will).
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Which is itself not sustainable, as it has to be mined.
Plants used to grow all by themselves without all the nutrients we're putting on them, every year without completely using up soil resources. Plants that weren't in balance with the native soil composition exchanging and taking died off. The problem is the crops being grown aren't right for the climate or soil. Native crops are preferable, assuming you can find a good combination of native crops that can meet nutrition needs. But then again, people have lived on every continent on earth except Antarctica for thousand of years.
You might be able to trace the problem to too many people, but I think the problem is non-native crops. And I think we could probably improve a lot of other agriculture techniques.
Also, phosphates are poisonous in sufficient dose. And, the sector in the chemical manufacturing industry that's increasing is drilling fluid. The chemical manufacturing is not necessarily a good sign.
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Niki
It was well understood by the court at the time to mean through the issuing of bonds, which was the only legal way to borrow money at the time.
Hillary would have been a nightmare. She wanted to invade Iran. That would have started world war three. There is nothing that Obama has done that hillary hasn't also said she would do, or that she has objected to. I mean, she is still in the administration.
John,
You must be doing pretty well, the US federal govt. Has $3 trillion in its bank accounts.
That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.
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Originally posted by Bytemite:
What exports? Guns, bullets, and artillery? Most of our manufacturing is overseas.
Maybe you mean the hardwork, intelligence, and innovation of our college graduates - oh wait. I'm thinking of India. Individually we have some bright people in America, but generally, we're not making much anymore or revolutionizing anything.
About 25% of my business is exporting to other countries. The vast majority of my products are made in the USA.
I'm hardly alone in this.
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