Fuck the Tea Party
POSTED BY: Niki2
UPDATED: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 23:16
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I mean it. They have done more damage to this country, and are poised to do even more, than anyone who has come before.Quote:
If the Tea Party is coronating its own third-party candidate next summer, the moment of schism will likely be traced back to this week of debate on raising the debt ceiling.
The fissures are already evident. House Speaker John Boehner and his No.2, majority leader Eric Cantor, split on a grand bargain for deficit reduction. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell’s plan of last resort was met with outright hostility by the House Republican conference. And the House Republicans’ preferred plan — Cut, Cap and Balance – is less than popular with the Republican pundit class who openly acknowledge it’s a PR stunt that has zero chance of becoming law.
To hear Democrats tell it, House Republicans are “isolationist,” “extreme” and “spend more time listening to each other than their leaders.” Of course, it behooves Democrats to push the idea of a Republican Party in disarray. But Republicans have given them plenty of fodder.
As two roads diverge before the GOP on the debt ceiling, it’s increasingly hard to see a path that leads to party unity. Go right and the GOP risks default and, as McConnell has warned, being blamed by the center for an economic disaster. Take the center path – there is no left turn here – and Republicans risk an angry Tea Party base and potential primary threats. From the advent of the Tea Party to purity tests and the 2010 primary challenges, the split has been a long time coming.
As Karl Rove noted, the debate is now between a package that is mostly spending cuts versus 100% spending cuts and polls have consistently shown Obama has public opinion on his side in that debate. Five recent polls have shown overwhelming support for a “balanced approach” that includes a mix of tax increases and spending cuts. As David Brooks wrote two weeks ago, Republicans would be crazy to walk away from what will likely be the best offer for deficit reduction on their terms in a generation. But Republicans seem intent on not only walking away from a deal, but handing Democrats electoral gifts as they go.
Even if a grand bargain doesn’t happen now, Obama can claim he put everything on the table and Republicans walked away. And on a congressional level, Democrats were delighted with the GOP’s vote on Cut, Cap and Balance, which cuts half a trillion dollars more than Paul Ryan’s budget. “After polling and town hall meetings where voters rejected this plan to end Medicare, House Republicans doubled down on it — cutting, capping and ending it again,” says Jesse Ferguson, a spokesman for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, which works to elect Democrats to Congress. “That’s just wrong and an example of House Republican’s misguided priorities: ending Medicare instead of creating jobs.”
Even Grover Norquist on Thursday told the Washington Post he didn’t consider allowing George W. Bush’s tax cuts to lapse a tax increase. When the anti-tax guy is encouraging a compromise that would allow the Bush tax cuts to expire, you know the GOP’s reached the precipice.
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But at some point – whether it’s next week or in six months – the GOP will face a hard decision on revenue increases. And when that road splits, the Republican party might just do the same. http://swampland.time.com/2011/07/21/the-coming-gop-split/#ixzz1T2wmAC
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As word broke that President Obama and House Speaker John Boehner may be nearing a deal that would raise the debt limit while cutting $3.5 trillion over the next decade, a large group of Republicans were serving notice that the pact likely won’t be enough to mollify the party’s conservative wing. A bicameral cadre of some 20 GOP lawmakers streamed into a studio on the third floor of the Senate, spilling into the periphery of the audience, to tout the Cut, Cap and Balance proposal that Democratic leader Harry Reid says doesn’t have “one chance in a million”
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The GOP ain't towing no cows, ma'am.
( assuming you mean kowtow ? )
The TEA party is just doing its job to SAVE this country, and keep it from going the way of Greece and the former Soviet Union - imploding on itself from obscene, pointless govt spending.
Props to them, and keep up the good work.
Hating the TEA party is essentially hating America, hating freedom, and pretty much all that's worth while with this great country.
The childish temper tantrum being thrown is from the inexperienced, clueless community activist, who is in W A Y over his head here, and it shows.
Glad you've chosen your side.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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Gawd, you're pathetic. If you mean by "side", the "side" of the vast majority of Americans, and anyone with half a brain, you betcha I've chosen that side!Quote:
Hating the TEA party is essentially hating America, hating freedom, and pretty much all that's worth while with this great country
Do you write these things, I wonder, out of sheer stupidity, or is it all a game? Either way, it's pathetic.
Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off 
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Niki, dear, while I understand your strong feeling, and even agree with you, please watch your language. You're a lady, and it isn't nice to use words like that.
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I'll save you the trouble of replying: the instant I thought that, I also thought of this oldie, one of my wife's favorites:
I'm sure you remember it.
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You hating America is what's pathetic.
Look at your own disaster of a state. Over taxed and far too much govt , not to mention an actual invasion of illegals, and you want to attack those of us who want to make things right ?
I have no idea from where your self loathing comes, but keeping that mind set isolated in as small a corner of the nation as possible is the best chance we have.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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Originally posted by Niki2:
Gawd, you're pathetic. If you mean by "side", the "side" of the vast majority of Americans, and anyone with half a brain, you betcha I've chosen that side!Quote:
Hating the TEA party is essentially hating America, hating freedom, and pretty much all that's worth while with this great country
Do you write these things, I wonder, out of sheer stupidity, or is it all a game? Either way, it's pathetic.
Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off
Bullshit...I'll go back to my corner and laugh...you are dumb...really fucking dumb.
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NewOld: I'm no lady, never have been. I try to keep some semblance of civility, here and elswhere. But what I'm seeing happening to my country is worse than anything I've seen in my lifetime, so I'm speaking my mind.
It appears I'm not alone, either. The Tea Party is losing public appeal (not that it had much to the VAST majority of Americans):Quote:
GOP turns on Tea Party
Conservatives have spent the past year or so gleefully citing the Tea Party phenomenon as evidence of the president's unpopularity. This was always a fantastical claim: the arrival of a new political movement doesn't tell us more about public opinion than, you know, actual measures of public opinion. But it was an easy weapon to hand, so there it was.
But in wielding the Tea Party as a rhetorical cudgel against the president and his party, Republicans made a crucial miscalculation. By making the approval of the Tea Partiers the measure of legitimacy, they entrusted their own fate to this new group of activists. And now the establishment of the GOP is stuck trying to wrest control of the party back from these ruffians, whom they wanted to exploit without actually empowering.
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The state Republican Party has been publicizing D'Annunzio's past run-ins with the law and his questionable sanity. Apparently, the guy went through a phase in the 1990s in which he claimed to be the messiah and had a lot of theories about the Ark of the Covenant, 1,000-mile-high pyramids, the New Jerusalem -- you get the picture.
"Mr. D'Annunzio has disqualified himself by his background, his record and his behavior," says the GOP state chairman, which is a pretty strong line for a party chief to take on an ongoing primary. Still, given D'Annunzio's, shall we say, colorful past, it's little wonder that the party is eager to be rid of him.
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Whether this guy is a nutcase, there's obviously something happening here. North Carolina isn't the only place where the GOP is trying to put a lid on the Tea Party. http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/05/25/tea_party_gop_e
stablishment/index.html] Republican Tim D'Annunzio, who is running for congress in North Carolina's eighth district, is being attacked as "unfit for public office at any level" by his own political party.
Tom Fetzer, who chairs the North Carolina GOP, came out swinging at D'Annunzio over the weekend as the congressional hopeful battles Harold Johnson for the Republican nomination ahead of a June 22 runoff election.
"By my personal observation of his behavior, and by acquaintance with his record and background, I consider Mr. D'Annunzio unfit for public office at any level," Fetzer explained to the Charlotte Observer. "What he could do to the party as our nominee is secondary in my view to what he could do to the country if he got elected. If he got elected, for crying out loud, that would be a disaster." http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/05/25/tea_party_gop_e
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So it turns out that one after another of the Tea Party candidates is in one way or another mooching off the government. The latest series of hilarious disclosures center around Alaska's GI-Joe-bearded windbag Senatorial candidate, Joe Miller, who appears to have run virtually the entire gamut of government aid en route to becoming a staunch, fist-shaking opponent of the welfare state.
Miller's pomposity and piety with regard to government aid programs has all along been in line with the usual screechingly hysterical self-righteousness Tea Party candidates bring to such matters, railing against Obamacare and other "entitlement" programs and promising to end the "welfare state." That makes it all the more delicious now that he and his family have been exposed for taking state medical aid, unemployment insurance, farm subsidies, hell, even for u
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
You hating America is what's pathetic.
Look at your own disaster of a state. Over taxed and far too much govt , not to mention an actual invasion of illegals, and you want to attack those of us who want to make things right ?
I have no idea from where your self loathing comes, but keeping that mind set isolated in as small a corner of the nation as possible is the best chance we have.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
AMEN....dude you nailed it...close thread.
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The REAL Tea Party
Ron Paul’s Shocking Message To The Tea Party
http://www.digitalmeetingcenter.com/ron-pauls-shocking-message-to-the-
tea-party/851883/
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Originally posted by kaneman:Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
You hating America is what's pathetic.
Look at your own disaster of a state. Over taxed and far too much govt , not to mention an actual invasion of illegals, and you want to attack those of us who want to make things right ?
I have no idea from where your self loathing comes, but keeping that mind set isolated in as small a corner of the nation as possible is the best chance we have.
AMEN....dude you nailed it...close thread.
Paid Operative. It's just doing its job. But it's Jedi mind tricks won't work here...or anywhere.
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The Tea Party is a protest movement. If it ever got into power it would screw up things so apocalyptically it would discredit itself forever. Indeed it might be about to just that with the debt ceiling. A third, Tea Party candidate sounds like good news to me, splitting the conservative vote. In general I'm interested to see how the movement plays out. My concern is that the movement implodes too soon, and that a decent moderate Republican runs against Obama in 2012.
It's not personal. It's just war.
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