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Norway bombing/shooting

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Saturday, July 23, 2011 2:47 PM

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It tells us that these religions are the source of neither peace nor hatred. It's the people wielding the religion that are the source of the evil or the good they do in the world.




Someone finally got the point. It's not about the RELIGION, it's about the ZEALOUS FOLLOWERS.

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Saturday, July 23, 2011 2:48 PM

The books that you point to are full of mixed messages that can be used to justify pretty much anything. There ARE books that are full of pure intolerance and hatred, though, so at some point books themselves can be a problem.

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Saturday, July 23, 2011 3:21 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Govt building bombed ? Why, it must have been some angry white christian.



Dis is gonna be embarrassin'.

That fits the profile of the principle suspect. Only you left out the anti-immigrant, gun nut part.

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Saturday, July 23, 2011 4:06 PM

Jezus, what an awful thing...and that people's immediate thought is "It must be Muslims", "Haha it's the right wing", etc., is sad. Which kind of extremist he is means nothing to the dead and wounded, and the death toll last I heard was 92--85 from the island alone! I can't conceive of it, and I still can't figure out why he went after those kids. A government building, yeah, that makes sense, but innocent kids on an island? To hunt them down like animals? I'll have to catch up on the news (just got up) to see if there are any answers. Gawd, the world has turned to shit. Somehow I expect the Scandinavian countries to be free of this sort of thing...and as I heard one survivor (of the Oslo blast) say yesterday: "This is the kind of thing that happens in America or the Middle East, not HERE".

I don't care who did it or why, it's a tragedy of enormous proportions and my heart goes out to the families of those kids.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off


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Saturday, July 23, 2011 4:13 PM

I just realized something; this should end anyone wondering about Raptor, as to whether he's got any common sense and how obsessive he is about Muslims. In that way he's almost PN. That anyone's immediate response to this is to think it's Muslims isn't surprising; but when they find out it was a right-winger instead, for the only reaction to be "That's one for the Christians..." isn't sane. It speaks to an obsession that not just colors, but BLINDS him to anything else.

Thus, anyone who tries to reason with him should recognize from now on that they are pissing in the wind, and arguing with his blind insanity almost puts people on the same level as him, in my opinion. Just something that crossed my mind as I went down the thread.

Okay, found an answer to "why" the kids in this cretin's mind. Apparently it was a Summer camp for kids run by the ruling Labor Party. Sick, sick.

Jim remarked about the "one for the Christians": "It's almost worse. That sonofabitch is too cowardly to do anything but bitch." (measning about Muslims) Obviously it's not, but...

They're learning more about this madman which is beginning to fill out his motives:

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A picture is emerging, gleaned from official sources and social media, of a right-wing Christian fundamentalist who may have had an issue with Norway's multi-cultural society.
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Breivik is a member of the Oslo Pistol Club and has three weapons registered in his name, according to leading Norwegian newspaper VG, citing Norway's official weapons register. They are a Glock pistol, a rifle and a shotgun, VG reported.
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He was a youth and adult member of the conservative Fremskrittspartiet (FrP) or Progress Party, VG newspaper reports, remaining involved until 2007. The party's most prominent manifesto pledge is to minimize immigration.

His membership was confirmed by a senior party member, Jonas Kallmyr, who is quoted by VG as saying that encountering Breivik was "like meeting Hitler before World War II."
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A post in Breivik's name on an online forum, Document.no, from December 2009, talks about non-Muslim teenagers being "in an especially precarious situation with regards to being harassed by Islamic youth."
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"The conservatives dare not openly express their viewpoints in public because they know that the extreme Marxists will trump them. We cannot accept the fact that the Labour Party is subsidising these violent "Stoltenberg jugend", who are systematically terrorising the politically conservative," the post reads.

He is making a reference to the youth movement of Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg, who heads the Labour Party. http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/07/23/norway.suspect/index.html?h
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Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
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Saturday, July 23, 2011 11:13 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
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that's 1 for the Christians
You almost made that sound like it's something to be proud of, altho I'm sure it just came out wrong.



It only sounds that way in YOUR head, because that's not even remotely the way it was said.


Where as Beslan was a coordinated attack by a well organized group of muslim terrorists , this appears to be the work of 1 lone nut case.

Not even on the level of Tim McVeigh, who wasn't using Christianity as his reason to murder, and had accomplices.

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You'll forgive so-called Christians every time, and blame Muslims every time, as you've already shown.



Forgive 'so-called' Christians every time? ( well, not even this ONE time ). Nope. Blame Muslims ? hell yeah. That I will do , every time, especially when they specifically state that is their intended goal, and then they go out and do exactly what they said they were going to do, over and over and over again.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, July 23, 2011 11:44 PM

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Blame Muslims ? hell yeah. That I will do , every time


Even when it's done by Christians, you admit you'll still blame Muslims.

How very enlightened of you.

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Saturday, July 23, 2011 11:47 PM

The responses on this thread make me really sad.

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Sunday, July 24, 2011 2:06 AM

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Originally posted by mincingbeast:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Govt building bombed ? Why, it must have been some angry white christian. Again. We know they they do, after all.




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "



Haha, beat you to it, you angry white Christian. And if you're not Christian, you ought to be. And if you're not angry, fuck Ron Paul.



As a dog eater myself...I think Ron Paul should be left out of it...and I like my christians with butter

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Sunday, July 24, 2011 2:09 AM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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Blame Muslims ? hell yeah. That I will do , every time


Even when it's done by Christians, you admit you'll still blame Muslims.

How very enlightened of you.



Kwicko, despite my new "niceness" I have to call snarky bullshit....I don't think that was EVER admitted.....and kaneman tells it like it is..

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