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POSTED BY: dreamtrove
UPDATED: Thursday, July 21, 2011 12:20
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DREAMTROVE

Thursday, July 21, 2011 12:05 AM

Listening to country roads.. almost makes me cry now...

Byte,

Well said. Put yourself where Plant and Paige were mentally, reading Lord of the Rings for the ninth time, stoned to the gills, and Stairway makes perfect sense.

Lwaves,

But this is that revolution. Rebecca Black and Taylor Swift are both youtube sensations. But watch the Taylor Swift, she made it her own way, and went so often to nashville her parents had to move there to keep an eye on her. Rebecca Black made it by accident. A lot of internet success is the failure of someone else's attack. But as for companies, she is the suing at the moment for ownership of Friday, as I say, which she'll almost certainly win.

No companies, no contracts, open audience to the earth's audience, and all the technology you want. That's your musical revolution. What it will produce ultimately no one knows, but yes, they will not spend years mastering and playing 4 chord progressions and 12 bar blues, they can hit a button that does that, but they will work on their craft, and who knows what they will create.

Check out the taylor swift videos I posted above.

Oh, and it ain't chas and dave that will get you, I was referring to stuff I only listened to because the MSM told me to. Like Michael Jackson. Or more to the point: Prince. He's a talented musician, sure. Both of them are. But after a while, a lot of stuff is the same thing, over again.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

ISROUSRO

Thursday, July 21, 2011 12:58 AM

Start with the year that you really started to listen to music, then look at the top 10 or 40 for that year and then keep going year after year.
Lots of shite and not to many good songs.
It usually takes a few years for the good stuff to be appreciated.

passoniatetly indifferent

TRAVELER

Thursday, July 21, 2011 2:15 AM

http://www.imdb.com/mymovies/list?l=28764731
Traveler

DREAMTROVE

Thursday, July 21, 2011 2:50 AM

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Originally posted by isrousro:
Start with the year that you really started to listen to music, then look at the top 10 or 40 for that year and then keep going year after year.
Lots of shite and not to many good songs.
It usually takes a few years for the good stuff to be appreciated.

passoniatetly indifferent

Spot on. I think that most of the stuff I listened to that is recognized now as music of the time was nowhere on the charts. A lot of it was never cut as singles. Also, lots of bands that no one ever heard of.

Bow Wow Wow's I want candy is now retroactively recognized as a hit, though no company would really want to get behind most of their lyrics. For instance, I knew a girl who modeled her image to on "louis quatorze"

Rock Lobster. The music that we really listened to, actually, was catchy and danceable, and generally irreverent.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

LWAVES

Thursday, July 21, 2011 11:16 AM

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Lwaves,

But this is that revolution. Rebecca Black and Taylor Swift are both youtube sensations. But watch the Taylor Swift, she made it her own way, and went so often to nashville her parents had to move there to keep an eye on her. Rebecca Black made it by accident. A lot of internet success is the failure of someone else's attack. But as for companies, she is the suing at the moment for ownership of Friday, as I say, which she'll almost certainly win.

No companies, no contracts, open audience to the earth's audience, and all the technology you want. That's your musical revolution. What it will produce ultimately no one knows, but yes, they will not spend years mastering and playing 4 chord progressions and 12 bar blues, they can hit a button that does that, but they will work on their craft, and who knows what they will create.

Having thought about it more you are right that this is the next revolution. No companies, no contracts, self-made self-produced material and all released digitally so there's no need to press CDs. Hopefully we will see some true talents that are proper artists come through this that wouldn't otherwise have got anywhere. Of course this means that we'll also have to put up with the bad releases as well. To me at the minute we seem to have a proliferation of the bad stuff. The companies have jumped on it and use it to get artists out quickly and easily with sound-a-like songs that have short lived success and then it's quickly on to the next thing. As you stated it's hard to say what this situation will produce but hopefully it'll be more artists like Swift who have put the work and effort in to get somewhere. Even if I'm not a fan of her stuff I can respect that she's worked to make it and deserves success. Unfortunately these days too many artists fall into the quick and easy success category.

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I was referring to stuff I only listened to because the MSM told me to.

MSM?
Mainstream media?

BTW: I love that Axis of Awesome vid. It's funny and very well done and true. Thanks for posting that.

"The greatest invention ever is not the wheel. It's the second wheel." - Rich Hall

DREAMTROVE

Thursday, July 21, 2011 12:20 PM

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Having thought about it more you are right that this is the next revolution. No companies, no contracts, self-made self-produced material and all released digitally so there's no need to press CDs. Hopefully we will see some true talents that are proper artists come through this that wouldn't otherwise have got anywhere. Of course this means that we'll also have to put up with the bad releases as well.

We'll always have both. I suspect the youtube world where video is king, anything sexy has an edge, just as on MTV. Ultimately, in other venues you might see different stuff.

Another thing to bear in mind is that the top 40 mentality is completely artificial, and historically, popular songs have been popular for decades to centuries. The rapid turnover was created by the industry.

So any music coming out has to compete with the near infinite list of what already exists. One way to break through is to sing a song about Firefly ;)

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MSM?
Mainstream media?

yep

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BTW: I love that Axis of Awesome vid. It's funny and very well done and true. Thanks for posting that.

I think credit for this one goes to Happy who posted it originally (someone correct me if I'm wrong) but I thought it was appropriate to repost here.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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