Suck it Rupert!!

POSTED BY: Calhoun
UPDATED: Saturday, July 30, 2011 09:02
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RIONAEIRE

Wednesday, July 20, 2011 1:59 AM

Which brings up the question, would Rupert Murdock even remember Firefly, much less why it was canceled? He has his fingers in so many pies (pardon the pun) so would he remember a show whose run was tragically cut short?

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

SHINYGOODGUY

Wednesday, July 20, 2011 1:51 PM

Which brings up the question, would Rupert Murdock even remember Firefly, much less why it was canceled? He has his fingers in so many pies (pardon the pun) so would he remember a show whose run was tragically cut short?
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Agreed, of course, that is if you believe he knew nothing of the "hacking" and so forth. It is possible that a man with so many fingers in so many pies would be hard pressed to recall the details of his business affairs.

Then again, the devil is in the details. My guess is that Rupert was not fond of the politics in Firefly; namely the little guy as hero and the big nasty-wasty corporation as the evil empire, feverishly plotting to rule the world.

Nah, that couldn't be it!

SGG

Tawabawho?

SHINYGOODGUY

Wednesday, July 20, 2011 2:13 PM

I ain't fond of Rupert either, but I don't think it can be dismissed so easily that he was only following up on the previous groundwork laid by William Randolph Hearst, either.

Hey Frem,

It reminds me of a plot line in SHEILD (Marvel Comics) the evil organization known as HYDRA. Cut one head and 2 grows in it's place. Of course, this is real life. But there had to be an innovator, and Hearst was it for many both here and abroad.

Did you hear about the News of the World reporter, Sean Hoare, being found dead? Hmmmmm?, coincedence? Of course the Bobby's in Scotland Yard stated there was nothing "fishy" about his death.

Sean Hoare to the NY Times in an interview:
"You'd just go to the news desk and they'd just come back to you," said Hoare. "You don't ask any questions. You'd consider it a job done. The chain of command is one of absolute discipline and that's why I never bought into it, like with Andy saying he wasn't aware of it and all that. That's bollocks."

"...to fight their behavior with reason, logic and truth, while setting a better example."

Looks like Hoare took up that flag.

SGG

Tawabawho?

TWO

Wednesday, July 20, 2011 2:46 PM

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Originally posted by Shinygoodguy:
Then again, the devil is in the details. My guess is that Rupert was not fond of the politics in Firefly; namely the little guy as hero and the big nasty-wasty corporation as the evil empire, feverishly plotting to rule the world.

Nah, that couldn't be it!

Because of the pie flinging, the Committee never did ask Rupert Murdoch about who at FOX decided to premiere Firefly in the Friday night death slot. Since Rupert's other answers were of the same kind -- “No, I humbly don't recall” and “Yes, I sincerely object to crime” -- I think Rupert's hypothetical answer would not illuminate Firefly history: “FOX is a business unit forced to cancel low rated shows and I can truthfully say I am deeply sorry to all disappointed fans of Firefly. . . .”

The Committee ought to have asked Wendi Deng Murdoch about her opinion of Firefly: “Horses in outer space is crazy stuff! Waste of my husband's good money. It deserved to be canceled!” Wendi takes crap from nobody. Who's the woman who fought Murdoch's foam foe?- www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/07/20/earlyshow/main20080979.shtml

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2011/07/the-consequences-of-me
dia-anarchy.html

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity," where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

FREMDFIRMA

Thursday, July 21, 2011 1:29 AM

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Originally posted by Shinygoodguy:
"...to fight their behavior with reason, logic and truth, while setting a better example."

Looks like Hoare took up that flag.

Yeah, and look what it got him - tis why I use so many of the obfuscative tricks I do.

That said, nobody knows one way or the other really, prolly never will - but yeah verily the timing is awful suspicious.
To quote Bianichi from the Foreigner series:
"Coincidence is that rarest of beasts, it's tracks look like so much else."

Regardless of lip service to the contrary, if you're gonna blow the whistle on something, anything, you make abso-friggin-lutely *sure* to cover your arse, cause all involved will come gunning for it, including the folks *supposed* to protect whistleblowers, in fact they'll be the first ones to roll you - just ask Mr. Manning.

Hoares problem is he wanted credit for it, or to use his coming forward publicly to force the issue, which does on a rare occasion work, but the consequences for that can be dire as it's more or less the political/career equivalent of a suicide bombing - Karen Kwiatkowski learned that to her peril once Hack passed away and was no longer able to use his influence to shield her.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Kwiatkowski
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hackworth

Anyhow, I know all too well that in this day and age, actual protection of whistleblowers is a myth, they're likely to face worse consequences than whoeever they're exposing, and when you go up against someone that way who plays dirty...

Anything can happen.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

AURAPTOR

Thursday, July 21, 2011 10:28 AM

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Originally posted by Calhoun:
I am really enjoying watching the demise of Rupert Murdoch unfold! Could'nt happen to a nicer guy

Why? What did he ever do to you?

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

SIMONWHO

Thursday, July 21, 2011 2:01 PM

The man is pure poison. He pumps hatred through his papers, through his TV stations, through his lack of ethics. He's a monster and he's made the world a much worse place.

SHINYGOODGUY

Saturday, July 30, 2011 8:49 AM

Yeah, whistleblowers are a dying breed.......literally.

I keep thinking about the young woman who blew the whistle on those Enron dudes. One guy actually killed himself, rather than face the music.

I say don't put them in jail, just take all they stole, plus everything they own and pay their victims. Let them start from scratch. For those priveleged bastards it's the best type of punishment - let them walk a mile in our shoes.

SGG

Tawabawho?

SHINYGOODGUY

Saturday, July 30, 2011 9:02 AM

Of course Rupert forgot to finish those thoughts -

"No, I humbly don't recall".......and you lot aren't worthy of me telling you what I know.

"Yes, I sincerely object to crime".......unless it benefits me.

As far as Firefly is concerned, I think he knew exactly what was going on. The "politics" in Firefly did not agree with him. The American ideal of freedom - in its pure sense (hence the horses running free with Serenity flying over) is not for the likes of his sensibilities. He likes his control.

Having a show that clearly flies in the face of that is not in keeping with his "Mr. Burns-like" need for control. Tends to make things not go smooth. Knowing his rep for the above - control - I'm pretty sure he had his finger in that pie.

But he's learning that you can't stop the signal.
He got Mal'd!

SGG

Tawabawho? Freedom just another word for nothing left to lose.

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