We should become more like Canada
POSTED BY: Hardware
UPDATED: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 06:15
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The Federal Court of Appeal has rejected an illegal immigrant's bid to have her medical treatments covered under Canada's healthcare system, saying it could undermine immigration laws and turn the country into a "health care safe haven."
The three-judge panel ruled against Nell Toussaint, a Grenadan citizen who came to Canada as a visitor in 1999 and settled in Toronto.
Toussaint's health began to deteriorate in 2006 and over the years, she suffered from a number of conditions, including uterine fibroids, blood clots, tumours and hypertension.
Unable to pay her medical bills, Toussaint applied to become a permanent resident in 2008 so she could be covered under Ontario's health insurance program. She also applied for a temporary residence permit.
But she didn't pay the application fees and as a result, neither request was considered.
She later sought medical coverage from the federal government under a 1957 Order in Council that provides emergency care for people making their way through the immigration system.
When the government refused, she brought the matter to federal court, arguing the decision violated her rights to life and security of the person under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. The court dismissed her case.
A second appeal was shot down in a decision released Friday.
Justice David Stratas wrote in the decision Toussaint was not entitled to federal health coverage because she wasn't involved in the immigration process...
But just in the whole immigration thing. Not in the universal healthcare. Don't believe me, ask actress Natasha Richardson how great universal healthcare is.
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Eh, it's the same here. You can't get free medical treatment unless you have residency. What's the deal?
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Originally posted by Hardware:
But just in the whole immigration thing. Not in the universal healthcare. Don't believe me, ask actress Natasha Richardson how great universal healthcare is.
Then again, you could ask American actor John Ritter how good free enterprise American medical care is.
Or Sonny Bono.
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Hmm, if her fibroids are throwing clots, they're pretty serious.
She might not have very long to live.
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Okay, yeah, I ain't real nice about a lotta things, but yanno what ?
On this, the issue of medical care, PERIOD ?
Fuck money, fuck nationalism, if someone is ill and needs treatment - it's your goddamn duty to humanity, to yourself, to everything that makes us HUMAN, to treat them to the best of your capability.
Seriously, what kind of a person is someone who, having the ability, the knowledge, and possibly the resources to do so - turns away someone and leaves em hanging at the windy corner like that, even *I* find that offensive.
We need to take a good hard look at ourselves, in that we're all so okay with subsidizing slaughter, to the point where its impoverishing us as a nation, but begrudge every thin dime used to treat the sick or feed the hungry.
Are YOU okay with that ?
Cause I'm not.
PS. Anyone lauding such inhuman malice shows exactly what they are, don't they ?
-Frem
I do not serve the Blind God.
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So if Mel went to the emergency room up there, would they not treat her because of this ruling? Or does it only apply to things like doctors appts and continuing treatment? Just wondering.
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Originally posted by TheHappyTrader:
eh?
The obligatory Canada impression. I apologize, it had to be done.
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Originally posted by RionaEire:
So if Mel went to the emergency room up there, would they not treat her because of this ruling? Or does it only apply to things like doctors appts and continuing treatment? Just wondering.
Don't know about all situations, but when Madame Geezer got ill a couple of years ago on a trip to Banff with her sisters, the emergency room wouldn't treat her, as a non-Canadian, until they had run her Visa card to be sure she could pay.
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Okay, yeah, I ain't real nice about a lotta things, but yanno what ?
On this, the issue of medical care, PERIOD ?
Fuck money, fuck nationalism, if someone is ill and needs treatment - it's your goddamn duty to humanity, to yourself, to everything that makes us HUMAN, to treat them to the best of your capability.
Seriously, what kind of a person is someone who, having the ability, the knowledge, and possibly the resources to do so - turns away someone and leaves em hanging at the windy corner like that, even *I* find that offensive.
We need to take a good hard look at ourselves, in that we're all so okay with subsidizing slaughter, to the point where its impoverishing us as a nation, but begrudge every thin dime used to treat the sick or feed the hungry.
Are YOU okay with that ?
Cause I'm not.
PS. Anyone lauding such inhuman malice shows exactly what they are, don't they ?
-Frem
I do not serve the Blind God.
Yes and no, frem. I think anyone should be given emergency life saving treatment, but it is difficult when you have a free system if you are going to offer all those services to anyone who visits. You end up getting health tourists who will rip the system off and it could be catastrophic for the system.
Long term illegal immigrants must really have the shittiest of lives, no matter where they live. Much of the work force of many affluent nations is made up of such people, even legal migrant workers have a crap time, working for much less than locals and having no safety net or access of regular medical services. Sucks.
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