Transformers
POSTED BY: michaelp42
UPDATED: Wednesday, July 6, 2011 21:44
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Originally posted by ecgordon:
I'm not sure what your definition of puritanical is, but if it means "avoid a Michael Bay movie at all costs" then that fits me.
For clarification, my comment was not meant as a personal insult towards ECGORDON, and his reply was not taken in that vein either. With his (assuming masculine as we don't chat often) previous post, I saw what he was leading to without seeing this quoted one, and myself am always confused by this type of thinking, but like I said before - there's nothing wrong with it. Diffrent strokes for different folks.
If I did come across as insulting to you, ECGORDON, I apologize. If anyone else is reading this thread besides the OP, I apologize for the misconception. To the OP, sorry if it seems like we hijacked the thread, I'm sure it wasn't either of our intention to do so.
And in answer to the OP's question I state yet again I haven't seen it still... but I still really wanna!
-Steg
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Saw it yesterday:
The Good: Dutch (Alan Tudyk's character) didn't just steal, but was handed every scene he was in. I was expecting a brief cameo, but he was a nearly constant presence, and far outshined Turturro (thouh I have to admit, I do like Simmons' character arc through the three movies, from asshole MiB to paranoid nutcase to a respectable hero. He actually matured a bit).
Cybertron looked beautiful.
I loved Optimus's incoherent "wah-blugh-glurgle-oof" as the Driller knocked him around in Chernobyl. Cullen generally performed far better here than he's been doing in "Prime."
I'm kinda amused that the Decepticon fighters who attacked the building Epps was climbing didn't seem to know there were people in it. Apparently they were just trying to drop it onto Shockwave as he strolled past. They must really hate their boss. 
I liked the script; it was mostly coherent, witty, and genuinely funny (even if chunks of the plot were cribbed from "The Ultimate Doom" and "Megatron's Master Plan"). Pity the script stopped just as they arrived in Chicago. 
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/The_Ultimate_Doom%2C_Part_1
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Megatron%27s_Master_Plan
I did love Director Mearing's comment about not letting the Wreckers off-base because they're assholes.
And after we were all worried the Wreckers would be redneck stereotypes, they turn out to be football hooligans.
The characters (pre-Chicago) were well-detailed and interesting. The slew of never-before-seen characters that Epps rounded up were also cool. Wish we could've seen more of them. Like, say, in the previous movies.
The bad: I saw this in 2D (I've been burned too many times by these movies, and I'm not about to pay $17 for a ticket when I can see it for $5), so can I assume that there were fairly important scenes that were only available in the 3D cuts? People seemed to appear/disappear, get separated, and lose time to an extent unusual even for Bay (the Decepticon takeover of Chicago literally happened between cuts).
As with the first one, the Decepticons weren't actually characters so much as they were plot devices. Megatron didn't really do anything until it came time to beat up Sentinel (didn't even manage to kill him) and get killed by Prime. I didn't even see why he was sitting on his butt during the battle; did Sentinel fling him off the building after reminding him who was in charge? Starscream apparently had a personal grudge against Sam, but could only show up to suck up to Megatron then get killed. Shockwave. . . didn't even need to be in this movie (what were his lines? I heard him making noises, but couldn't make out any words).
Apparently Starscream and Laserbeak are the only Decepticons who can fly on their own. Everyone else has to use piloted fighters (though having an army of Seekers would've made it a lot harder for the Autobots to infiltrate).
After Wheelie and Brains being a near-constant presence through the narrative, they slip off-camera to die unnoticed. Rosencrantz and Guildenstern had a bigger send-off.
The Autobots apparently have magical damage-concealing powers when transformed, as Bumblebee can shift from a spotless and shiny Camaro to a scorched, scratched, cracked-up robot.
The horrible, incoherent staging. Optimus and Sentinal are in NEST-Washington, then they're sightseeing together, then Sentinel is suddenly with Sam's group while Optimus is "ten minutes behind." Sam and Carly are together. Sam goes for the control-pillar. Carly finds Megatron (who, remember, was last seen at the same building the pillar dropped from, so they'd feasibly be close together). . . Then Carly and Sam are inexplicably at opposite ends of the bridge where Optimus has been fighting.
As usual in these movies, the TFs might as well be made of glass for how durable they are (though I liked Lennox' observation about full-auto gunfire --it's not the hits, it's the vibrations that shake up their internals). I'm not even really talking about the humans
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