X-Men 1st Class - Good Popcorn Fun

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LWAVES

Monday, June 20, 2011 10:00 AM

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Just saw it. Had some issues w/ it , but it was pretty decent.

I too liked it in a 'it was pretty good but not fantastic' way and I wasn't really expecting to like it much at all after X-Men Last Stand and Wolverine.
I thought it was great that they kept the two leads played by Brits and they did a good job seeing as McKellan and Stewart are a tough act to follow.

I'll give my opinion of some of your spoilers in spoilers. Just in case.

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1st - The idiocy of how the Cuban missile crisis was portrayed. Both US and Soviet navies, lined up across from each other like WW 1 trench war-fare, waiting for a cargo ship w/ Soviet Nuke missiles, sitting in plain view, right there on the top deck..... Please.

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Hollywood has rewritten history so many times that it has long believed that it's version (or whatever version they currently wish to portray) is the right one. But yeah, it's movie theatrics and to show the good guys and bad guys on screen at the same time.

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Charles Xavier and Raven met in their youth, and were life long best friends ? Oh, and she doesn't look as old as he did in the later movies, because... ? The fact that Wolverine can have near immortality makes sense, but Raven ? ( though I did like his cameo... )

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I don't know X-Men canon either, all I know about them is what I've learned from the movies. Wolverine's lack of ageing was mentioned in the previous movied so, as you say, that makes sense.
As for Raven/Mystique then I always saw her ability as sharing base properties with Wolverine. Her ability is more than just purely visual, her body physically changes (at least externally). Her and Wolverine both seem to generate new cells/tissue etc, one to heal, one to change appearance so it stands to reason that if Wolverine doesn't age because of this then Raven would have something similar. Maybe everytime she changes it effectively gives her a new skin/body so allowing her to stay younger.
Or it could just be filmmakers wanting to put a naked blue chick in the film.

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And along that same theme, much of what we saw, even the same words, which we saw in the 1st movie were brought up in XMFC. I find that lame. It's like nothing happened for nearly 40 years. Hard lines were drawn right then, and there, and yet in the 1st XMen movie, we see things being presented as if it was just NOW on the verge of developing.

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Yeah I felt that it seemed too rushed to get to that point. I always assumed that this reboot (or whatever) was planned as part of a series, not a one-off. It probably will be a series as it's done quite well. I could have understood the rush more if it was a one-off as they would want to get in as many themes and links as possible. I felt it would have been better to have Charles and Eric disagreeing and maybe have Eric start to move in his own direction but still keep them friends and basically on the same side. Any further developments could be explored in a following movie.

End Of Spoilers. Whew.

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I knew there was a back story to how Charles became wheel chair bound, but did that story ever get told in the comics? And was it anything like what was shown in XMFC ? Good drama, either way.

I can't say for the comics but I always assumed from the first movie that Charles was paralysed because of the same character shown in XMFC. I never knew a reason how or why, just always thought it would be that person because of their connection.

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And I like Rose Byrne, a lot. She's smokin'.

Yeah, Rose is

and another Brit. For once they are paying someone who isn't a baddie or in a Bond movie.
But I thought Jennifer Lawrence was better and better than Rebecca Thingymajig from the other movies.

RIONAEIRE

Tuesday, June 21, 2011 3:29 AM

I too saw it this weekend. The reason Mistique looks younger than Prof X in the original movies made sense to me as told in First Class, it was good that they mentioned it because otherwise I would have wondered. I liked the movie, it was entertaining and interesting, I even cried, yeah, I cry at movies easily. But yeah, I'd recommend it because it was interesting and, sure some of the historical facts weren't right but then again you have to think of this as an alternate universe, where there are mutants and where the missiles aren't already in Cuba. So it worked for me. And it was good to see how Prof. X ended up needing to use a wheelchair, one of those things that people wondered about. I enjoyed the film though it wasn't my favorite X Men movie.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

LWAVES

Tuesday, June 21, 2011 9:39 AM

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The reason Mistique looks younger than Prof X in the original movies made sense to me as told in First Class, it was good that they mentioned it because otherwise I would have wondered.

I obviously missed the bit where they mentioned it. Would you mind telling me the reason they gave? Please?

"The greatest invention ever is not the wheel. It's the second wheel." - Rich Hall

AURAPTOR

Tuesday, June 21, 2011 11:20 AM

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I too saw it this weekend. The reason Mistique looks younger than Prof X in the original movies made sense to me as told in First Class, it was good that they mentioned it because otherwise I would have wondered.

If the comic book story has Mystique and Prof X as childhood friends, then I guess my issue is with how they were portrayed in the 1st 3 movies, and not this one. My thought was that they simply wanted her in this movie, and whipped up the back story of them meeting as children, so as to have a starting point with which to carry on in First Class.

The act of simply interjecting a character into a prequel, because the audience already has come to know and like that character, really irks me.

The droids and Chewbacca, in the SW prequels, stands out. I really hated seeing that. Don't get me started...

Wolverine, though I sorta cringe at how his ties to Prof. X keep cropping up, prior to them finally meeting properly, in the original movie. There is an out, I suppose, as I think it's Prof X who states " you don't remember... " or some such. Small point, but it's something.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

STORYMARK

Tuesday, June 21, 2011 3:38 PM

Would Xavier even really remember a 10 second meeting, in which Wolverine didn't even fully face them, after 40 years?

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

CYBERSNARK

Tuesday, June 21, 2011 9:42 PM

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The reason Mistique looks younger than Prof X in the original movies made sense to me as told in First Class, it was good that they mentioned it because otherwise I would have wondered.

I obviously missed the bit where they mentioned it. Would you mind telling me the reason they gave? Please?

Hank noted that her cells don't age like normal peoples' --by the time she's 50 she'll still have the telomeres of a teenager.

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LWAVES

Wednesday, June 22, 2011 9:54 AM

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Hank noted that her cells don't age like normal peoples' --by the time she's 50 she'll still have the telomeres of a teenager.

Thankyou kindly.

"The greatest invention ever is not the wheel. It's the second wheel." - Rich Hall

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