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Tree-hugging destroying the environment

POSTED BY: Hardware
UPDATED: Sunday, June 26, 2011 13:18
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Thursday, June 16, 2011 1:20 PM

http://manlyexcellence.com/2011/06/13/how-tree-hugging-hippies-are-des
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Among tree-hugging hippies (Figure 1), there is a common sentiment that capitalism is inherently evil and will result in the destruction of our environment. I’ve argued with some of these hippies before, and tried to explain to them that countries with free market systems (such as the U.S. and Japan) typically have much better environmental quality then countries with centrally-planned economies (such as China and the former Soviet Union). Apparently, their marijuana-addled brains are immune to reason, because this black-and-white argument always fails to convince them. The fact of the matter is, environmental destruction is not a preordained outcome with capitalist systems; but in fact, free market economies may be a necessity for us to save our environment...



Excellent article for anybody who can understand cause and effect. For the rest of you, FLAME ON!

The more I get to know people the more I like my dogs.

...and he that has no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. Luke 22:36

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Thursday, June 16, 2011 1:32 PM

During America's and Britain's industrial development the environment was a toilet, rivaling anything you would have found in developing Russia or China. You may be too you to remember when the Cuyahoga Rive caught on fire and burned a couple of railroad trestles, certainly too young to personally remember the killer smog of Donora PA, or further back, when large swaths of the USA was deforested, but America had its own gritty period of capitalistic environmental destruction.

The author is cherry-picking his facts to the point where there are very fews left - including, BTW his "representation" of "tree-huggers" as dirty, ignorant, toked-up "hippies" (Dude, you seen ANY hippies lately???)

The author is an idiot.

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Thursday, June 16, 2011 2:07 PM

Read the whole article. He addresses both of your points.

The more I get to know people the more I like my dogs.

...and he that has no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. Luke 22:36

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Thursday, June 16, 2011 2:23 PM

He addresses none of them.

First of all, if he didn't want to leave readers with the impression that "tree huggers" are stinky hippies, why the hell did he lead his article with that image, which even included a picture? HE'S A PIG'S ASSHOLE AND A LIAR.


And he picked... what? Dam building and Germany as his only examples? Can you say cherry-picking? Sure you can!

Look, I gotta go to work. Later, dude.



Oh, I guess he only looks like an asshole and a liar.


See how that works?

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Thursday, June 16, 2011 2:38 PM

Anytime there is a paradigm shift in industry and development, no matter what socio-economic system is in play, pollution always drastically increases.

We are starting to see increased pollution from fracking, and ramping up oil drilling off shore has lead to what is also a fairly major disaster.

I do not believe either side can really point fingers at each other, nor should we. Not if we want to keep breathing clean air and drinking clean water.

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Thursday, June 16, 2011 3:47 PM

The tone of the writing alone makes it impossible to take too seriously.

But far be it from me to question the science of a site as intellectually robust as "Manlyexcellece.com."

I think Sig nailed it off the bad - the author is an idiot.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, June 16, 2011 4:37 PM

took a brief look around that site, and I can't exactly figure it out. If it's supposed to be satirical, it isn't funny- it's homophobic and racist humor.
If it's intended to be taken seriously, it's still racist and homophobic, but cloaked in right wing anarchism and violence.
Either way, not a credible source for legitimate argument.

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Thursday, June 16, 2011 4:44 PM

I think Hardware knew it was bullshit, so he loaded his opening post with that "cause and effect" crap, so that he can ignore those who point out the problems in the article by calling them "flamers" (which, in context with the site, rather says something about Hardware, I think).

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, June 16, 2011 4:54 PM

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Originally posted by Hardware:
Among tree-hugging hippies (Figure 1), there is a common sentiment that capitalism is inherently evil and will result in the destruction of our environment. I’ve argued with some of these hippies before, and tried to explain to them that countries with free market systems (such as the U.S. and Japan) typically have much better environmental quality then countries with centrally-planned economies (such as China and the former Soviet Union).



and that's because the tree hugging hippies are able to speak their minds in the "free" countries. I guarantee, western industries have been dragged kicking and screaming into every bit of clean policy they have - by who? The fricking long haired hippies and their lawyers!

I think you owe a bunch of hippies apologies and long overdue thank you's.

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Thursday, June 16, 2011 5:06 PM

His actual examples were a planned economy and free market economy. But I guess you can't open your mind to examine an idea that is immediately antithetical to your world view.

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...and he that has no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. Luke 22:36

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