Insanity or Genius - Fortune-teller or Deadly Killer ?

POSTED BY: JaynezTown
UPDATED: Friday, December 10, 2004 09:11
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THEREALME

Sunday, August 8, 2004 4:15 PM

There are quite a few people who dismiss psychic powers as magic, as if River needs to light candles and stir vile ingredients in a caldron in order to read minds.

I don't EVER recall Mr Spock of Star Trek or Lyta Alexander from Babylon 5 doing such a thing. In such settings, psychic powers are seen as a natural ability of some minds, an ability that is not understood in the time of us, the viewers.

Mental powers, ESP, psychic abilities, whatever you like to call them, have been as much a background element of science fiction as faster-than-light travel (which some argue does not exist in Firefly) or artificial gravity (which most certainly DOES exist in Firefly).

To me, all of these things are equally wonderous.

But none forces me to accept a two inch tall magical pixie with dragonfly wings as a member of the crew.

The Real Me

LTNOWIS

Sunday, August 8, 2004 5:07 PM

Yeah, that's the point I was trying to make. On the other hand, that doesn't mean it's always sacrilege to mix sci-fi and fantasy. I wouldn't mind seeing a science fiction-action-fantasy-western. "Gorram gnomes can build a Class-2 hyperdrive but they can't understand mithril-tipped bullets of acid!"

CORWYN

Sunday, August 8, 2004 9:23 PM

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Originally posted by LtNOWIS:
Anyways, River's "Dont make faces." comment looks like a pretty good example of psychic power.

Well if that's the standard then I'M psychic. I have done that exact thing with people I was talking with on the phone.

Cool.

Thank You Kindly!!

CORWYN

Sunday, August 8, 2004 9:31 PM

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There are psychics in Star Wars, Star Trek, and Stargate, so I really think this is as grounded in science as artificial gravity or FTL travel.

Huh? you mean grounded in Science FICTION?

There are also aliens in Star Wars, Star Trek, and Stargate.

Certainly there is science fiction mind reading, as well as magical mind reading, from a fiction point of view. Both are taken as being something more than being extremely intuitive and perceptive. I have seen people do the sorts of things River does, and don't believe any of them are psychic.

If she can read minds so well, why does she need to stand on the railing to eavesdrop on the conversation going on in the dining room?

Thank You Kindly.

ANNIK

Sunday, August 8, 2004 10:26 PM

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Originally posted by corwyn:

Here's the crux of the question. Did you think she turned into the ship?

Thank You Kindly.

Absolutely. I spend most Thursdays as my house.

Cheers,
Annik
... my sister's a ship. We had a complicated childhood.

ANNIK

Sunday, August 8, 2004 10:29 PM

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Originally posted by embers:
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Originally posted by JaynezTown:

Anyone have any ideas on the blue Sun connection, what experiments happened or who these two by 2 , hands-of-blue people are ?

I subscribe to a huge Government/Military/Corporate conspiracy...
(just like in RL! LOL)

Shhhh! Don't let them hear you!

Cheers,
Annik
... my sister's a ship. We had a complicated childhood.

LTNOWIS

Sunday, August 8, 2004 11:07 PM

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There are psychics in Star Wars, Star Trek, and Stargate, so I really think this is as grounded in science as artificial gravity or FTL travel.

Huh? you mean grounded in Science FICTION?

There are also aliens in Star Wars, Star Trek, and Stargate.

The key word is as.

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If she can read minds so well, why does she need to stand on the railing to eavesdrop on the conversation going on in the dining room?

Her mind-reading/precognition isn't willful. She has no control over it. Or at least not much.

I'm telling you, in 257 days, you'll admit you were wrong.

LTNOWIS

Sunday, August 8, 2004 11:27 PM

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Well if that's the standard then I'M psychic. I have done that exact thing with people I was talking with on the phone.

Yeah, I said it could've been a guess. Her knowledge of Early's life is pretty telling though. Unless he kept a journal.

YT

Monday, August 9, 2004 7:38 AM

Redundant, so removed

JAYNEZTOWN

Monday, August 9, 2004 9:09 AM

I've wondered if River can kill with her Brain, maybe she can maybe not. Also consider that moment in Ariel, when those hand-of-blue people come along and the guards die a horrible death yet the hands of blue are not affected.

Now think about more simple matters for a second, how a man can wear a coat to sheild himslf from rain/cold, or how a person can get anti-venom to protect from snake poison, or how folk with sensitive skin use lotion to stop UV sun rays.

Is this the kind of Reason they didn't die, maybe their minds have been played with also so the Hands-of-Blue folk aren't hurt by it. So the question is : Would a weapon like the ones the Hands of Blue used affect River, she did seem pretty frightened didn't she ?

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