LETS SHOW THEM HOW ITS DONE!! HEAR OUR VOICES!

POSTED BY: GoddessofChaos35
UPDATED: Friday, May 27, 2011 21:07
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GODDESSOFCHAOS35

Wednesday, May 25, 2011 7:20 PM

Dearest Comrades,

I was there from the beginning and I remember how angry WE were when they canceled our show.I did everything asked of a brown-coat and then some. Gorilla Advertising and Campaigning became second nature to me! We rose together then we showed them whatfor.

Now some friends need our help, with a little show called SGU. Maybe we can get a TV MOVIE AT THE VERY LEAST. THEIR FANS and OUR FANS.... WE CAN WIN THIS!

SO,from one brown-coat to another!Help me raise awareness with a little show called SGU!We can help their voices be heard!

https://www.facebook.com/SaveSGU

SHOW THEM OUR SUPPORT AND HOW ITS DONE!

"This is the internet, and reputation control is our playground."

Goddessofchaos

ZEEK

Wednesday, May 25, 2011 8:14 PM

Why? I haven't seen it. I'm not going to go fight for something I have no attachment to.

LWAVES

Wednesday, May 25, 2011 8:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by GoddessofChaos35:

Now some friends need our help, with a little show called SGU. Maybe we can get a TV MOVIE AT THE VERY LEAST. THEIR FANS and OUR FANS.... WE CAN WIN THIS!

SO,from one brown-coat to another!Help me raise awareness with a little show called SGU!We can help their voices be heard!

Sorry but I'm not willing to help save this show.
I sat through every episode from the early BSG wannabe episodes through to the end when the show had found it's feet a little but even then at best it was only 'okay'.
My feelings are especially true because with SGU not performing well (and with the recent studio money troubles) it means we almost certainly won't get the Stargate Atlantis movie and that show deserves it far more than SGU. This was clearly evident when Mackay and Wolsey guest starred and gave us something SGU was previously lacking - a sense of fun and humour.

So until I get my SGA movie then SGU gets nothing good from me and it doesn't deserve it. It tried to do something different from the SG formula amd failed. Let it die instead of dragging the SG brand name down further.

"The greatest invention ever is not the wheel. It's the second wheel." - Rich Hall

BYTEMITE

Wednesday, May 25, 2011 9:47 PM

Um.

I haven't seen any of the Star Gates, so forgive my interjection, but the above logic putting SGA over SGU doesn't make sense.

If one show in a franchise fails, it decreases the possibility for success of other shows in the franchise. As well as the successes of any actors, directors, or producers involved or associated with the franchise.

That's why Firefly fans hoped Dollhouse would do well, and are now hoping that Avengers will do well. It doesn't matter if we're fans of that particular series, what matters is that it's all connected and every bit of success under the belt of a franchise or creator helps.

BORIS

Thursday, May 26, 2011 12:22 AM

Good luck with your mission Goddess. Unfortunately I can't support ressurecting SGU because it just hasn't resonated with me in the same way other shows have Like Firefly. But I commend your dedication and passion so again good luck :)

Rose S

LWAVES

Thursday, May 26, 2011 10:54 AM

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Um.

I haven't seen any of the Star Gates, so forgive my interjection, but the above logic putting SGA over SGU doesn't make sense.

If one show in a franchise fails, it decreases the possibility for success of other shows in the franchise. As well as the successes of any actors, directors, or producers involved or associated with the franchise.

That's why Firefly fans hoped Dollhouse would do well, and are now hoping that Avengers will do well. It doesn't matter if we're fans of that particular series, what matters is that it's all connected and every bit of success under the belt of a franchise or creator helps.

Okay let me give you some info as you've never watched any of the SG series. Bigger fans than me might provide more accurate info as this is fairly basic and general.

Stargate SG-1 was very popular, ran for 10 seasons and 2 TV movies. There was a planned third movie. Stargate Atlantis was popular enough to go for 5 seasons and there was a planned movie to finish/continue the story.
Stargate Universe struggled from the start and just scraped through to a second season. It didn't improve enough and was cancelled before the second half of the season had been shown.
MGM's money troubles (the ones that delayed The Hobbit and the next Bond movie) were a major part in putting the planned movies on hold but also SGU's ratings. As you say when one part fails it hurts the rest in the brand name. I imagine it's similar to what Enterprise did for the Star Trek name. If SGU was to continue then there is a likelihood that it would continue to fail and bring the SG name further down. I don't expect to see either of the movies but that doesn't mean SGU should continue either.

Using your picks of Firefly and Dollhouse then I agree that I wanted Dollhouse to succeed, partly because of the cast, partly because it was Joss's latest work. But it didn't succeed so we move on and I too now want Avengers to be a big hit. The same goes for SGU. I wanted it to succeed as a show on it's own and so that there was a higher chance of getting the other SG movies. It had it's chance, some might say a second chance with the second season, and it didn't work out. If one part of a set fails you don't keep patching it up just to keep going, you replace it with something that does work.

Let me put it to you this way. If there had been a planned continuation of Firefly at the same time Dollhouse started airing we all would have wanted Dollhouse to succeed. Then Dollhouse's first season didn't do well but it managed to get a second season. That too didn't go well and Dollhouse is cancelled. There is now a choice between backing the continuation of Firefly or backing the continuation of Dollhouse.
Which would you pick?
Using your examples as comparison that's the way it is for me with SG-1/SGA and SGU. I would sooner see a continuation of shows that worked over one that didn't. If you want something to continue you go to it's strengths, not it's weaknesses.

Firefly and Dollhouse aren't the best examples because in the eyes of the network neither succeeded. Buffy, Angel and Dollhouse would have been a better comparison to SG-1, SGA and SGU but you said in another thread you'd never seen Buffy (or Angel??) so I went with your picks.

Hope that clears up my 'logic' behind my thoughts on this. Sorry if it rambles.

"The greatest invention ever is not the wheel. It's the second wheel." - Rich Hall

LWAVES

Thursday, May 26, 2011 10:56 AM

Oops. Clicked wrong option.
Brain going fuzzy wuzzy.

BYTEMITE

Thursday, May 26, 2011 11:59 AM

Actually, the reason why Dollhouse was canceled was because it didn't have as many fans and the reason there was no campaign to revive it was because the fans felt lucky to get what they did.

Judging by the first entry into this thread, there is both sufficient quantity of fans and also sufficient quantity of feeling like SGU didn't get a chance that some want it to continue.

The argument against helping those fans comes across, to me, as more of a like vs. dislike of the show thing. I mean, we're here on a firefly fan board. Firefly during it's actual run was not very successful, so going by your logic, we shouldn't support it because it's failure is bringing down Joss. We obviously continue to support it because we like it, despite any futility inherent in that.

So your objection clearly is not so much that you think SGU's lack of success is bringing down the franchise, but that you don't LIKE is as much as the other fare from the franchise. Because if you liked it, I can only assume based on your presence here that you would support the show regardless of it's success.

And, as I have said, the problem with taking that stance is this: you want the show to be canceled in the hopes that efforts would be directed at another, better entry into the franchise. But canceling is an even bigger mark against a series/ franchise than low ratings! Worser, it may suggest to the network that popularity for the franchise might be waning. So this would damage the chances of getting new entries in the franchise.

There's always a tiny smidgen of a chance in renewed interest in Firefly from studios and networks if Joss' stuff does well, and I can't believe that the tangle or production rights and contracts couldn't be unraveled if people saw enough opportunity. When Dollhouse aired, chances improved for a Firefly renewal, contingent on the success of Dollhouse. When Dollhouse was not successful, the chance of Firefly renewal reverted to an original state. We did not get either a continuation of Dollhouse (except in comic books!) or Firefly out of that, and so the conclusion that you have to pick one or the other is faulty.

CANADIAN

Thursday, May 26, 2011 5:28 PM

Show me Serenity flying through the stargate and you have my attention.

DREAMTROVE

Thursday, May 26, 2011 10:11 PM

Not to snark fandom or anything, but we are actually at actual war, somehow saving a dying tv show running on a dying media just doesn't rank very high. The rhetoric seemed a little strong for saving a show, even if it were Firelfy.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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