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kaneman's Marilyn is toast

POSTED BY: kaneman
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Wednesday, May 25, 2011 3:46 AM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Get her into some kind of anger management program, drug rehab (if there's *any* hint of a drug problem, or even of recreational drug use), whatever it takes - make damn sure the judge knows it, too. The legal profession loves to see contrition, loves to see people "playing by the rules". They eat that shit up. Judges - some of them, anyway - actually *want* to give people a second chance. Especially pretty young women. But she's got to appear to have learned her lesson, at least.

Class D felonies should be easy enough to plead down. That's one of those "felonies" they charge you with just to show that they're serious, but they aren't really so serious that they really want to send her to 10 years hard time or anything.

Prisons are overcrowded. Non-violent, non-drug crimes have prosecutors practically BEGGING defendants to take probation these days, and usually some nominal fine or restitution. And community service - they're big on making you work for them, for free, as part of your "punishment".

Tell your girl to hang in there, be cool, and chill the eff out, and she's got more than a fighting chance to pull out of this all right. Oh, and don't admit to SHIT, at least not until you've got things pled down and in writing.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill




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Wednesday, May 25, 2011 3:50 AM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
And if you can pull it off, try to patch things up with her mom. Even if it's just YOU going to talk to her mom, letting her know that y'all are trying to get this shit worked out, make it right, etc.

A forgiving mom in court can never hurt.



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Wednesday, May 25, 2011 6:06 AM

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Wednesday, May 25, 2011 6:58 AM

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Originally posted by kaneman:

http://www.jud2.ct.gov/crdockets/parm1.aspx

Put in Gangloff for last name
M for first initial
and 1989
and manchester ga12 for court



I think it's time she get a new mom. Just walk away and never look back.

I presume daddy is long gone, for the same reason?

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Wednesday, May 25, 2011 2:06 PM

Wow, Kaney. You provide the info for us to search your GF's criminal record. What a sweetheart. And despite being fabulously rich (you claim), you can't afford a lawyer for her?

I think you're just making all this up, and not being very convincing about it either.

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Wednesday, May 25, 2011 2:26 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Wow, Kaney. You provide the info for us to search your GF's criminal record. What a sweetheart




She doesn't care why would you? It is public info. That isn't shit you should see mine....lol. I have everything from assault 1 to stalking....rather hilarious seeing I did neither.


.RUSSELL MATHEW 1971 Hartford GA 14 H14H-MV01-0391535-S Guilty 1/31/2002
RUSSELL MATTHEW 1971 Enfield GA 13 H13W-CR06-0138740-S Guilty 2/17/2006
RUSSELL MATTHEW 1971 Manchester GA 12 H12M-MV06-0401899-S Guilty 2/23/2007
RUSSELL MATTHEW 1971 New Britain GA 15 H15N-CR08-0238817-S Guilty 2/15/2008
RUSSELL MATTHEW 1971 Rockville GA 19 T19R-MV06-0354141-S Guilty 5/19/2006
RUSSELL MATTHEW K 1971 Enfield GA 13 H13W-CR10-0157562-S Guilty 2/22/2011
RUSSELL MATTHEW K 1971 Enfield GA 13 H13W-CR06-0140024-S Guilty 3/21/2007
RUSSELL MATTHEW K 1971 Enfield GA 13 H13W-CR04-0132131-S Conditional Discharge Terminated 6/4/2004
RUSSELL MATTHEW K 1971 Enfield GA 13 H13W-CR04-0132780-S Probation Terminated 2/17/2006
RUSSELL MATTHEW K 1971 Manchester GA 12 H12M-CR06-0204920-S Guilty 2/23/2007
RUSSELL MATTHEW KANE 1971 Enfield GA 13 H13W-CR07-0144679-S Guilty 3/27/2008
RUSSELL MATTHEW KANE 1971 Manchester GA 12 H12M-CR08-0219620-S Probation Terminated 11/13/2008
RUSSELL MATTHEW KANE 1971 Manchester GA 12 H12M-CR08-0220539-S Guilty 2/24/2009
RUSSELL MATTHEW KANE 1971 Manchester GA 12 H12M-CR09-0226468-S Guilty 3/2/2010
RUSSELL MATTHEW KANE 1971 Manchester GA 12 H12M-CR09-0224467-S Guilty 3/2/2010
RUSSELL MATTHEW KANE 1971 Manchester GA 12 H12M-CR09-0222684-S Guilty 6/30/2009
1



Feel better....I am shameless....you are aware of that, right?

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Wednesday, May 25, 2011 2:33 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Wow, Kaney. You provide the info for us to search your GF's criminal record. What a sweetheart. And despite being fabulously rich (you claim), you can't afford a lawyer for her?

I think you're just making all this up, and not being very convincing about it either.




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Wednesday, May 25, 2011 2:36 PM

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Originally posted by piratenews:
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Originally posted by kaneman:

http://www.jud2.ct.gov/crdockets/parm1.aspx

Put in Gangloff for last name
M for first initial
and 1989
and manchester ga12 for court



I think it's time she get a new mom. Just walk away and never look back.

I presume daddy is long gone, for the same reason?




Pretty insightful there PN. It's half her mom's fault, but Marilyn is the one who keeps going back for more ,and being the only one who gets in trouble it's kinda stupid.

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Wednesday, May 25, 2011 11:11 PM

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Originally posted by kaneman:
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Get her into some kind of anger management program, drug rehab (if there's *any* hint of a drug problem, or even of recreational drug use), whatever it takes - make damn sure the judge knows it, too. The legal profession loves to see contrition, loves to see people "playing by the rules". They eat that shit up. Judges - some of them, anyway - actually *want* to give people a second chance. Especially pretty young women. But she's got to appear to have learned her lesson, at least.

Class D felonies should be easy enough to plead down. That's one of those "felonies" they charge you with just to show that they're serious, but they aren't really so serious that they really want to send her to 10 years hard time or anything.

Prisons are overcrowded. Non-violent, non-drug crimes have prosecutors practically BEGGING defendants to take probation these days, and usually some nominal fine or restitution. And community service - they're big on making you work for them, for free, as part of your "punishment".

Tell your girl to hang in there, be cool, and chill the eff out, and she's got more than a fighting chance to pull out of this all right. Oh, and don't admit to SHIT, at least not until you've got things pled down and in writing.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill




Not that easy..check it out for yourself....it has been going on for years with NO jail time...It does seem worse than it is though....

http://www.jud2.ct.gov/crdockets/parm1.aspx



Put in Gangloff for last name
M for first initial
and 1989
and manchester ga12 for court




Okay, I'm no lawyer, but what I'm seeing is a lot of penny-ante bullshit charges, and a couple more serious ones. Prosecutors and cops love to trump up charges because then they can get you to plea down. That's how the game is played. They don't go into court expecting to win EVERYTHING they throw at you, but if y'all plead down, they have to win SOMETHING. I'd say give 'em the "Breach of Peace" and a "Larceny" or two, because those are chickenshit misdemeanors that can easily be dispensed with via community service and some light anger-management classes. In return, insist that they drop the felonies, or at least downgrade them to misdemeanors. A Class D felony shouldn't be any big deal, really, but *ANY* felony conviction on your record is a fucking albatross around your neck, FOR LIFE. Never had any felony convictions, but I know a few who have, and they are well and truly fucked - can't vote, can't get a half-decent job, get treated like dogshit at any job they CAN get (because they're fucking convicts, and therefore worthless, right?), can't get a loan, etc., etc.

And, crazy as it may sound for me to say this, TALK TO "HERO" ABOUT SOME OF THIS STUFF. He says he's a prosecutor, so he may have some valuable insights to offer, which could be VERY helpful, especially coming "from the other side".

Most municipalities these days are looking for (a) little to no jail time for piddly crap like this (there's no terrorism here, no drug charges, no violence, nothing a DA can win votes on), and (b) at least a little money coming into the kitty via fines, fees, probation, etc.

I think this whole thing will be behind her before too long, and something you'll both hopefully laugh about a year from now. But for a little while, while shit gets worked out, life is going to suck, for both of you.

Good luck with it, and get the best damn lawyer you can possibly afford, and INSIST that no felony convictions of pleas will be considered!

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Wednesday, May 25, 2011 11:13 PM

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Originally posted by kaneman:


Pretty insightful there PN. It's half her mom's fault, but Marilyn is the one who keeps going back for more ,and being the only one who gets in trouble it's kinda stupid...her dad is Jimmy Bell a musician who has never been around, I think her mom was a groupie or some shit.




Agree with PN on that. She needs to steer clear of her mom. If they have a toxic relationship, she needs to make goddam sure that if her mom wants to see her, EVER, she has to come to Marilyn. That way, if they get into it, SHE gets to call the cops this time, and it's HER place the cops come to, not her mom's!

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