Atlas Shrugged

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AURAPTOR

Monday, May 16, 2011 12:09 PM

Despite the wishes of the doubters & " experts " ( the Left ) movie looks to be moving ahead. Wish our BDM would do the same...

After 50+ years, if not now, then when?

Haters gonna hate.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

KWICKO

Monday, May 16, 2011 12:11 PM

The discrepancy between critics and viewers isn't that hard to understand if you think about it.

1) How many "right-leaning" critics do you know? The job description "movie critic" kind of *IS* the embodiment of the whole "liberal arts" thing...

2) A vast majority of critics hated the movie. Some of them may even have been objective about it, and simply found it to be a poorly-made movie and a bad example of moviemaking, or full of plot holes and terrible acting. HOWEVER, a vast majority of VIEWERS actually quite liked the movie. How can this be?

Well, given the way the movie was marketed - internet, word-of-mouth, etc., not a wide release with a media blitz - it's entirely possible that it was marketed to its primary market, and ONLY its primary market. I was hearing about it for months from right-wingers everywhere. And lo and behold, all of them went to see the movie, and most of them loved it.

The people who went to see the movie were those who already liked it. Those who knew about it and didn't like the message weren't likely to pay theater prices to see something they were predisposed to not like already. There will likely be some success in DVD sales, because it's right-wing porn, and even those 'wingers who didn't much care for it will still buy it to support the cause.

I doubt the movie will break even, and it certainly isn't on track to be a blockbuster of any sort. It's highly doubtful any studio is lining up to put money into a sequel to a money-losing prospect. Hell, "Serenity" broke even, and probably is profitable now, given DVD/Blu-Ray sales - yet where are the studios? Where are the sequels?

The problem "Atlas Shrugged" ran into was that pretty much its entire target audience went and saw it on opening day, and that was about it. And it turns out that it's just not a very big audience.

Most of the tea-partiers also seem to love Ted Nugent's music; critics don't. Does that mean he's a great musician? 85% of his fans say he is! (His fans comprise about 0.00000000001% of the American population, though.)* [/snark]

* [These figures have no basis in fact, which makes them every bit as valid as Rand's "philosophy".]

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

AURAPTOR

Monday, May 16, 2011 6:50 PM

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The problem "Atlas Shrugged" ran into was that pretty much its entire target audience went and saw it on opening day, and that was about it. And it turns out that it's just not a very big audience.

Most of the tea-partiers also seem to love Ted Nugent's music; critics don't. Does that mean he's a great musician? 85% of his fans say he is! (His fans comprise about 0.00000000001% of the American population, though.)* [/snark]

I didn't see it opening day, as I stated. There were quite a few folks in the theatre too. ( thought I'd have the whole place to myself...dammit )

Ted Nugent ? He's a aging rock star, who sings about cat scratch fever and doin' the Wango Tango. What that has to do w/ Atlas Shrugged, is irrelevant.

I'm sure there's an age group of TEA party folks who use to party to the Motor City Madman. And he is a very talented guitarist. Or, use to be. Not real sure what his skills are these days.

He certainly can play guitar better than most pop artist can sing, for what that's worth.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

TWO

Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:06 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Despite the wishes of the doubters & " experts " ( the Left ) movie looks to be moving ahead. Wish our BDM would do the same...

Haters gonna hate.

You've probably never seen it unless you bought a bootleg at Comic-Con, but Roger Corman once churned out an awful, mega-low-budget big-screen version of The Fantastic Four that was produced quickly and cheaply only because Corman's rights to the material were about to expire. That's what happened with Atlas Shrugged as well -- producer John Aglialoro apparently spent 17 years trying to get this film made, and he finally rushed into shooting with two days left before he'd lose his rights to the book. The result is a film that has the flat, airless look of a Tori Spelling made-for-cable movie filmed in Vancouver. - www.movies.com/movie-reviews/atlas-shrugged-part-i-review/grae-drake/m
67952

Dear Objectivists, don't get mad because, no joke, if this were a weekly series on Showtime, I would watch it every week. And you know it could be –- Showtime airs Gigolos, after all. - www.movies.com/movie-reviews/atlas-shrugged-part-i-review/dave-white/m
67952?pn=1

Nagging Question I Want Ayn Rand To Answer From Beyond The Grave: I'm curious about the scene where a corporate titan's house burns to the ground and it's reported that fire trucks from other counties have to be called in to fight the blaze. Who does this person think he is, suckling at the public teat of fire department service? Shouldn't he go out and earn his own fire department to put out his possibly arson-related incident?

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity", where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

AURAPTOR

Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:14 AM

That one individual has likely been the generator for more tax $ going into that county, state to fund a hell of a lot more than a few fire trucks.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

TWO

Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:34 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

That one individual has likely been the generator for more tax $ going into that county, state to fund a hell of a lot more than a few fire trucks.

Ayn Rand collected social security and medicare, so don't get your panties in a wad over a economic theory. "Who is John Galt?" My ass...

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity", where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

AURAPTOR

Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:09 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

That one individual has likely been the generator for more tax $ going into that county, state to fund a hell of a lot more than a few fire trucks.
Ayn Rand collected social security and medicare, so don't get your panties in a wad over a economic theory. John Galt my ass...

You claim that, but I see no proof...

Either way, nice shift from the topic of her fictional character to her private life. Clever.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

TWO

Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:25 PM

It's worth noting that Ayn Rand was once considered so beyond the pale on the political spectrum that William Buckley called her an idiot to her face. William Buckley. Told someone to fuck off. For being too conservative. Let that seep in. Would that today's conservatives had as much sense. - http://antagonie.blogspot.com/2011/04/pinch-of-galt.html?showComment=1
303536741954#c9092139759889467976

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity," where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

AURAPTOR

Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:44 PM

Again , pointless personal attacks, to take shots at her political views.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

TWO

Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:16 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Again , pointless personal attacks, to take shots at her political views.

I will clue you in: Politics is Personal. So, what is your personal problem, Auraptor, that philosopher John Galt in Atlas Shrugged: The Phantom Menace could solve? I'm guessing that your taxes are too high or you hate your job and you're angry at how unfair people are to you. They are stealing your liberty! You want moral justification from a movie for tax avoidance or quitting work? Ayn Rand might have the answers you seek!

But did Ayn Rand truly create a morality, Objectivism, which can be proved by logic? No. She failed. Sorry about that. http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2011/03/16/moral-real
ism/

I'm late to give my personal objection to Objectivism: Alan Greenspan. Some say Greenspan is not an Objectivist, to which I say, "Baloney." http://the-undercurrent.com/blog/alan-greenspan-is-not-an-objectivist

And let's keep it personal. I forgot Charles and David Koch http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/d/a/david_seaton/2010/
08/the-koch-brothers.php

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity," where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

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