To Haken; a site addition request

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 03:39
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DREAMTROVE

Monday, April 18, 2011 12:54 AM

Rap,

That makes sense. If I may add a slight modification: Thread merge, not delete.

The user already has the ability to delete their own post, if they said something they regret. Thread delete would give one user the power to delete what another user said, and that's a power way too close to Mod for my tastes. Also, bear in mind that if it is instituted as such, you've just appointed PN, Kane and Niki as Mods for this forum, going by number of threads.

Thread merge could take your post, and all of its trailing posts and merge with another thread on the same topic, just posting them in a line. Best if done early, when the number of posts is small.

The merge should ALWAYS append the newer thread to the earlier one. This trick of "I will pre-empt your thread with my near identical thread with my new spin" is one that really annoys me, and we used to have a gentleman's agreement here that this was simply not done, but in the last two years it's cropped up a lot, and I'd like to see it disappear again.

When a merge is proposed, people should vote on it, on the basis of "is this really the same topic" so it might remain merger pending for a little bit, so that the feature doesn't get abused to delete other people's threads.

If you want a "delete thread" button for posts of your own to which there are not yet any responses, then I think it's fair. If there are responses, I think you have to just go in and edit the content of your thread and say something like "Sorry, didn't realize this topic was already being discussed at thread [link]"

Another thing is "post delete" We can make a post blank, but we can't actually delete the post. That might help. Then if a dupe or pointless thread came up, it might go something like this:

Rap: "US invades Libya"
ETA: Oops. Sorry, there's already a thread on this topic at [Link]
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DT: My thoughts on Libya

If everyone had a delete post button, then I could say "delete post" and then only once your thread was down to zero responses would you be able to delete thread (*I've seen this done on another forum and I'm trying to remember where.)

Consider another

Rap: "US invades Libya"
Some thoughts on Libya...
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DT: This is a dupe thread, [link]
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Rap
ETA: Oops. Sorry, merge?

Then if there was no actual thread merge function, we could still do it like this:

You edit your first post to read:

Rap: "US invades Libya"
Sorry, this was a dupe, please merge with [link]
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DT: This is a dupe thread, [link]
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Rap: [deleted]

Then I could delete

Rap: "US invades Libya"
Sorry, this was a dupe, please merge with [link]
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DT: [deleted]
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Rap: [deleted]

And then you would have a thread with no responses and you could delete thread.

That would prevent abuses

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

KWICKO

Monday, April 18, 2011 1:27 AM

Thread-merge is a good idea and a good addition to hope for. Several other fora have it, and it seems to work pretty well.

WISHIMAY

Monday, April 18, 2011 2:42 AM

Ya know what I'd like???

I'd like a virtual reality app so I can go to other planets in the 'verse...I mean, weren't we supposed to have that stuff by now???!

Take back the damn I pads and I pods and I don't cares....Time wasting gadgets that are designed to distract us...I want VR and a flying car and a jetpack...and...and... instantly downloadable matrix-style learning AND I WANT IT NOW!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
I CAN'T TAKE WATCHING THE CORN GROW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DREAMTROVE

Monday, April 18, 2011 4:43 AM

Actually, iPad is probably the best way to get that.

I think the rest the immersive VR stuff hasn't happened is that there's no interest. It's technologically very doable, but no one really wants to be that out of touch with reality.

I just saw Ray Kurzweil talking about the future integration of man and machine. He's right to a point, but I think that all the organization of the human mind will be external. No one wants a chip in their brain. Sure, they want it when it works the fantasy way that Mr. Gates tells us it is *going* to work when he first has the idea, but no one is really going to want it there when it goes all BSOD on us.

I have a stereoopticon in my drawer from the mid to late 1800s. It delivers an impressive 3d B&W image. I recall its color version popping up in the 1970s, ViewMaster? Something like that. Anyway, neat. But immersive. If I'm immersed, I can't engage other humans. The added value of enhanced reality isn't as powerful as the subtractive force of disconnection from the rest of the known world.

Sure, you might want to disappear into fantasyland, but you want to be able to put the book down at any point. It's this dual pull which has prevented these ideas from taking off, and I suspect, always will. When the plug-in VR circuit that goes right into your brain appears, it will be a fad of mild amusement of 2075, not the basis for a new society. It will be its day's stereoopticon.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

HAKEN

Monday, April 18, 2011 7:27 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Thread-merge is a good idea and a good addition to hope for. Several other fora have it, and it seems to work pretty well.

Hmmm...yeah, I think I can do that.

http://about.me/haken

JAMERON4EVA

Monday, April 18, 2011 7:54 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Dude, is there a way you could start a "This is all about ME" area where AURaptor's endless baiting could be intermittently dumped? As fun as it can be to piss on the little troll, it DOES take up a lot of thread time- I'm lookin' to cut down some.

Huh. I had just wandered over here to see if anyone had made the suggestion of letting authors of a thread have the ability to delete it. There are other boards which allow this, provided no one has yet replied to it. Some, I think, even allow the author to delete entire threads they've started... ( not real sure on that one, come to think of it. Might be a tad trickier... ) Anyways, just a thought.

Actually, I was going to share another conversion story, but one thing lead to another...

Nice to know your true feelings towards me, even if it's a year + late. No more Jessica Alba posts for you, Chris.

And no, I have no 'sock puppets'. I thought this was all cleared up, some time ago.

I haven't the time or inclination to say more than I already say here. I'm no where near motivated enough to play that game. I'm me, and that should be enough. Seems from this thread, you think so as well.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

Troll

"Mom, he has her chip. He has her."
John Connor,"Born To Run", TSCC EP 2x22

AURAPTOR

Monday, April 18, 2011 10:23 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by jameron4eva:Troll

"Mom, he has her chip. He has her."
John Connor,"Born To Run", TSCC EP 2x22

Am not.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

RIONAEIRE

Monday, April 18, 2011 11:21 PM

I think thread merge is fine. I'm opposed to blocking users/having certain users' posts not show up all the way. If I want to ignore the Raptor and Quicko fights I can do that already, I can skim a thread if I like, I don't think there's a need to have someone's posts only appear as one line and not the rest unless you click, I think that would be hard for me to figure out so I'm voting against it.

I really like this free press/free speech thing, other forums should really try it.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

KWICKO

Monday, April 18, 2011 11:25 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by jameron4eva:
Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Dude, is there a way you could start a "This is all about ME" area where AURaptor's endless baiting could be intermittently dumped? As fun as it can be to piss on the little troll, it DOES take up a lot of thread time- I'm lookin' to cut down some.

Huh. I had just wandered over here to see if anyone had made the suggestion of letting authors of a thread have the ability to delete it. There are other boards which allow this, provided no one has yet replied to it. Some, I think, even allow the author to delete entire threads they've started... ( not real sure on that one, come to think of it. Might be a tad trickier... ) Anyways, just a thought.

Actually, I was going to share another conversion story, but one thing lead to another...

Nice to know your true feelings towards me, even if it's a year + late. No more Jessica Alba posts for you, Chris.

And no, I have no 'sock puppets'. I thought this was all cleared up, some time ago.

I haven't the time or inclination to say more than I already say here. I'm no where near motivated enough to play that game. I'm me, and that should be enough. Seems from this thread, you think so as well.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

Troll

"Mom, he has her chip. He has her."
John Connor,"Born To Run", TSCC EP 2x22

Awesome.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

KWICKO

Monday, April 18, 2011 11:26 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by RionaEire:
I think thread merge is fine. I'm opposed to blocking users/having certain users' posts not show up all the way. If I want to ignore the Raptor and Quicko fights I can do that already, I can skim a thread if I like, I don't think there's a need to have someone's posts only appear as one line and not the rest unless you click, I think that would be hard for me to figure out so I'm voting against it.

I really like this free press/free speech thing, other forums should really try it.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

I'm with ya. I can choose which threads/users to ignore all by myself. I don't need software doing it for me.

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