SERENITY Part II. Your thoughts?

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BYTEMITE

Friday, April 15, 2011 9:57 PM

Storymark: Yeah, but a pattern's a pattern. If Joss is an anti-authoritarian, he's going to tend to write anti-authoritarian messages. It's not like there's other ways Joss isn't predictable, like his tendency to kill characters. You want to subvert expectations but eventually you start to realize certain elements are just part of a writer's style.

Besides, there are ways the Star Trek Federation isn't implied to be all that good in THAT verse, it's just most of the time we have a view of them from people employed by their military. As I understand it, Deep Space 9 is meant to explore some of the darksides/ downsides of the Federation. On the surface the alliance looks shiny, and it can actually very well do a lot of good for the people it represents, but clearly it can also do wrong, such as experimentation on 14 year olds. In this way, it's like any government.

As for missing the Alliance out on the rim, I'm not sure they can miss what was never really there.

The other option is that the Firefly story arc starts to become really existential, because those are two things that Joss is.

DMI: Good point about starting right after the movie, I was mostly trying to build on two's scenario about there being a reason another buffer panel fell off.

I agree with you that the Operative really did have a turn around, but that doesn't necessarily make him loyal to Serenity or the crew either. It could very well be that the Operative might do some morally ambiguous things just to survive, or to do right by people who depend on him.

The shot in the arm Mal has at the beginning of the movie is an innoculation, the movie says as much.

DMI

Friday, April 15, 2011 10:29 PM

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
The shot in the arm Mal has at the beginning of the movie is an innoculation, the movie says as much.

Yeah, but since when does he need inoculations and what are they for/against?

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I pray for one last landing,
on the globe that gave me birth.
Let me rest my eyes on the fleecy skies
and the cool, green hills of Earth.

TWO

Friday, April 15, 2011 11:00 PM

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Storymark: Yeah, but a pattern's a pattern. If Joss is an anti-authoritarian, he's going to tend to write anti-authoritarian messages. . .

DMI: Good point about starting right after the movie, I was mostly trying to build on two's scenario about there being a reason another buffer panel fell off.

I agree with you that the Operative really did have a turn around, but that doesn't necessarily make him loyal to Serenity or the crew either. It could very well be that the Operative might do some morally ambiguous things just to survive, or to do right by people who depend on him.

How about this: keep the Operative as a super-patriot, but because his honor has been soiled, he becomes a super-cynic about the Alliance leadership. Inside he is a different man.

To give the Operative a reason to serve, he's on a personal mission to exterminate the Reavers. But those damn space zombies refuse to lie down and die. No matter how many he kills, there's always more. Where are they coming from? That is why he was talking to River.

I'd send Serenity back to Mr Universe's moon to loot the replaced broadwave equipment and retrieve Mal's pistol from the pit where he dropped it. The Reavers will be waiting for him. They make plans, too.

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity," where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

BYTEMITE

Saturday, April 16, 2011 3:47 AM

They're going to foreign planets out on the rim, they probably innoc every time they make planet fall.

TWO

Saturday, April 16, 2011 12:29 PM

While we're dreaming of a next movie, I want an explanation of River in it. I want a grand unified theory of her ESP.

There is a nice example of getting into another mind, like River does, in the movie Source Code (2011). Physicist and movie consultant Jim Kakalios wrote about what is really happening to helicopter pilot Colter in Source Code:
www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/spoiler-talk-is-the-ending-of-source-cod
e-open-to-interpretation
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2011/04/12/guest-post
-jim-kakalios-on-the-quantum-mechanics-of-source-code/

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity," where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

THESOMNAMBULIST

Saturday, April 16, 2011 2:14 PM

Hey Byte.

Just wondering, are you intimating that Inara's secret is tied in with Blue Sun from the point of view of helping with a cure; or are they in some way responsible for her condition?

(This could work for me in a way but I would favour that as a side plot that perhaps conflicts with Mal and the crew's intentions and there in causes further friction between Mal/Inara.)

BYTEMITE

Saturday, April 16, 2011 2:52 PM

Either or both.

Ask yourself if a "cure" from Blue Sun won't really just make you worse.

RIONAEIRE

Monday, April 18, 2011 11:47 PM

This is why I like fanfic, everyone can write the verse however they wish, meaning everybody gets what they want and I can choose what to read. If Serenity 2 gets made then, for better or worse, people will consider it cannon and I just don't like that, I barely tollerate the movie being considered cannon. I know it isn't a popular position but I feel very very strongly about it.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

VERASAMUELS

Tuesday, April 19, 2011 7:47 AM

Well, we could have Mal or the crew finding out some or all of Book's secret. That could lead in all kinds of interesting directions.

Or Inara's secret - with Simon leading the search for the cure.

I'd certainly like to see Zoe pregnant with Wash's baby, as in 'Float Out'.

'Browncoats:Redemption' is a good place to start. The Alliance attempts to bury the truth about Miranda.

Personally, I'd like to meet Kaylee's parents and/or Jayne's parents.

I'd like to meet one or more Oriental characters. Go a bit down the 'Crouching Tiger, hidden Dragon' route with a Buddhist temple and Triad gangs, etc.

Devout Keeper of Jayne's Lunchbox

THESOMNAMBULIST

Tuesday, April 19, 2011 9:31 AM

verasamules wrote:

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Well, we could have Mal or the crew finding out some or all of Book's secret. That could lead in all kinds of interesting directions.

This is the most interesting one for me too. I'd actually like Book's past catching up with the crew and them having to fathom out who Book really was before they can free themselves from the danger.

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