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least appreciated Villan

POSTED BY: arcbeatle
UPDATED: Saturday, August 7, 2004 23:00
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Sunday, February 15, 2004 4:20 PM

I have a soft spot for Patience. She's a strong, old-fashioned, no-nonsense female villain I can really get behind. She has no particular reason to be evil, it's just business.

Perhaps a good match for Mishke? ;)

And speaking of Mishke, my research is showing that Shan Yu is based not on a real guy, and not on a figment of the writers' imagination, but on Disney's "Mulan" character. Which, if it is the case, makes me a little sad. I'm posting my research at my website (below) if anyone wants to comment/set me straight. Anyway, if true, it kind of takes the fire out of the guy.

http://dryope.typepad.com/superfly/

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Thursday, August 5, 2004 10:55 AM

Saffron, Badger, and the Corrupt Alliance officer were great roles
good post !

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Thursday, August 5, 2004 1:00 PM

Mrs Niska. At dinner, I am getting earful ...

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Thursday, August 5, 2004 1:39 PM

Reavers.

"...kill us, rape us, and sew our skins into thier clothing. And if we're real lucky, they'll do it in that order."

That ain't no shepard...

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Thursday, August 5, 2004 2:22 PM

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Originally posted by SerenityNow:
I have a soft spot for Patience. She's a strong, old-fashioned, no-nonsense female villain I can really get behind. She has no particular reason to be evil, it's just business.



Yep, Patience is your basic self-preservationist frontier matriarch...reminds me a bit of the matriarch in "The Thorn Birds" (which has some of the wild west frontier motif going on, only in Oz). I'm actually kinda basing my cosplay character on her.....watch your back...

"We gotta go to that crappy town where I'M a hero..."

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Thursday, August 5, 2004 2:36 PM

I'm going with the woman who was having her teeth checked by Badger at the beginning of "Train Job".

What no one else - but her and me - knows is, she's the Typhoid Mary of the Firefly 'Verse. She's carrying a nasty strain of typhus and doesn't give a rip.

She's responsible for the death of thousands on Persephone and the infection of countless others who will jump on transports and go on to kill everyone on board through the air they breathe.

She's a nasty one is Ms. TeethGettingChecked

"Just keep walkin, preacher man."

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Thursday, August 5, 2004 2:56 PM

Personally, I never really cared about Dobson. It's Fox's fault.

Seriously.

See, by the time I saw "Serenity," I'd already seen the full series. I knew who Book and Simon were, and I knew that random-new-guy along with them was the Alliance Spy, and that he'd end up dead.

See, "Serenity" was all about suspense; we're not supposed to know who's doing the backstabbing, what's in Simon's cooler, or what condition the crew's gonna be in next time we see them. If they'd aired it first it would've been awesome and catapulted Dobson to the level of "serious threat."

Instead, he just comes off as another token baddie. Certainly not Joss' fault, or any of the cast/crew. It was Fox that basically gave away the ending.

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Thursday, August 5, 2004 4:33 PM

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Originally posted by Steve580:
Saffron, on the other hand, seems interesting; she has connections with criminals, and rich socialites. I'd be interested in her past.
-Steve



Its not her past I'd be interested in.... Actually, I could see Saffron as being set up to be a possible new crew member - someone less trustworthy than Jayne but as effective as Inara or Jayne in a pinch.

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Thursday, August 5, 2004 5:32 PM

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Originally posted by Talonpest:
River pointed out that Jubal Early did his job because he liked hurting people. And the Blue Hand Group are also pretty evil.



I'd lump Saffron in with Jubal Early in the "It's why you took the job" crowd. Saffron doesn't do what she does for the money -- if it were about money, she could have stayed with Durran Haymer and been queen of her own floating island. Also, there's the exchange between her and Mal at the end of OMR (paraphrased): "There's got to be easier ways to steal." "You're assuming that the stealing is the point."

So what we're left with is that Saffron really gets off on winning people's trust, then betraying them and leaving them to die. She's something a lot nastier than just an opportunist.

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Thursday, August 5, 2004 5:37 PM

what about atherton wing? we all have known one person like that in our lives.


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