Had Firefly done Seven seasons... What ending would have suited you?

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UPDATED: Wednesday, April 6, 2011 08:38
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BYTEMITE

Wednesday, March 23, 2011 7:04 PM

Still Flying is good, you woulda made some good episodes. Sorry for ragging on you a little there.

GWEK

Wednesday, March 23, 2011 7:10 PM

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Still Flying is good, you woulda made some good episodes. Sorry for ragging on you a little there.

There's no need to apologize! Everyone has different opinions, and that's what makes the world go 'round.

I don't think we actually disagree on too many major points, and where we do, it's a matter of perspective.

I didn't feel like you were "ragging" on me. I just love to prattle on about FIREFLY. :)

www.stillflying.net: "Here's how it might have been..."

GWEK

Wednesday, March 23, 2011 7:11 PM

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Oooooh. Okay, I'm liking that. Both visually dramatic and horrifyingly bleak.

We gotta have Pax too though. Just so all surviving worlds will still have something to worry about after the end. Season 8 comics can be about trying to figure out a cure for the Pax. :D

Mmmmm. Exploding planet-y goodness. Imagine what the Blue Sun commercial for that would be like! :P

www.stillflying.net: "Here's how it might have been..."

BYTEMITE

Wednesday, March 23, 2011 7:14 PM

We do probably agree on more than we disagree, that's usually the case. In this case I decided to let go of the obvious disagreement and take in all the ideas as a whole.

I think it worked out better for everyone involved. :)

BYTEMITE

Wednesday, March 23, 2011 7:16 PM

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Mmmmm. Exploding planet-y goodness. Imagine what the Blue Sun commercial for that would be like! :P

Omigosh. Can you imagine if Firefly caught on and Joss was able to do the advertisements for it in surreal Blue Sun style?

PLATONIST

Wednesday, March 23, 2011 7:24 PM

GWEK, I think you've got some great ideas, too, and I've enjoyed reading, "StillFlying"...your pairing tangents are a wee bit adolescent for me, I’m assuming they're based on Joss’s penchant for Buffy and Angel breakups, but hey everyone's entitled to their shippy opinions.

GWEK

Wednesday, March 23, 2011 7:38 PM

Yes, to some extent the pairings are based on the precedent that over the course of seven years of serialized fiction, the relationships that seem "obvious" in Year One are not going to be intact in Year Seven.

In particular, the Mal/Kaylee pairing is based on the idea that both of these characters are driven by their love of Serenity and neither would ultimately want to leave her. (I don't see Inara or Simon being content to stay on the ship for the rest of their lives.)

I find it interesting that you use the term "adolescent" to describe what could be the strongest, most stable (most adult and realistic) pairings of the possible combos (ie, relationships based on shared values, common experience, and the ability to actually live with each other over the long-term, rather than the fun-in-fiction-but-usually-doomed opposites attract dynamic).

But, as you say, different strokes...

www.stillflying.net: "Here's how it might have been..."

LWAVES

Wednesday, March 23, 2011 9:12 PM

I've only skimmed through the previous posts but this question has come up before for me about Firefly and other shows.

My take for the original cast members goes something like this:

Before the end:

The movie plays out over the series so Wash and Book still die eventually.
Zoe finds she is pregnant and gives birth.
Mal and Inara get together for most of a season and then break up. Inara leaves Serenity (again). Mal then finds out about her illness and goes searches for her whilst doin jobs.
Kaylee and Simon have an on/off relationship including her seeing someone else (a new crew member). Kaylee and Simon still love each other but hide their true feelings.
Simon gets overly possessive and protective of River so she rebels against him.
Jayne is still Jayne but Book's death has started to change him (a little bit).
Mal spends time recruiting Independents and moves away from the just being a Captain into a true leader.

The end:

The final season is partly our crew doing it's thing and partly an uprising against the Alliance and Blue Sun.
Simon and Kaylee finally agree that they love each other and stay together.
Simon also realises that River needs to be let go and be her own person.
Jayne has changed (a little) and has come to appreciate and respect the crew around him as friends, even River and Simon.
Zoe, ever loyal to Mal, gives her life to save him in the final battle.
River effectively takes over Zoe's position as Serenity's second in command.
Mal catches up with Inara but she won't go back with him. At some point a cure for her illness is found, maybe by Simon.
Mal and Inara agree to bring up Zoe's child between them but stay seperate as a couple.
The Alliance is effectively brought down and Blue Sun destroyed.
Serenity and it's crew fly off towards a sun with Mal remarking that 'It ain't so black out there anymore'.

"The greatest invention ever is not the wheel. It's the second wheel." - Rich Hall

BYTEMITE

Wednesday, March 23, 2011 9:12 PM

...Must... resist urge to point out the influence of personal experience on writing relationships in fiction and opinion on workability.

And urge for self-narration.

Okay. Mostly averted.

Zoe/Wash and opposites attract was already done in Firefly, it's not unfair to predict that Joss may have gone elsewhere for his other pairings.

PLATONIST

Wednesday, March 23, 2011 9:48 PM

Hi GWEK, I seem to think we've discussed this one before:)

The idea of Mal and Kaylee bonding over the ship was recently negated in both "Better Days" where Kaylee's fantasy takes place OFF the ship, and in "Take the Sky", where Mal states he would lay down his burdens and give up his fight in exchange for a normal life with Inara. I'm assuming on or off the ship. Canon overrides speculation.

Also, the problem with Mal and Kaylee (based on your argument), beyond being like brother and sister, is that if the ship goes down they no longer have a unifying constant, with little passion or intellectual attraction for each other, there wouldn’t be much to keep them together, the pairing doesn’t work off of the ship.

Wash and Zoe were opposites and they seemed to work just fine, grew together, even made a baby, because they wanted a life together regardless of what they had in common or not.

And...doesn't "mature, stable, adult, shared experiences, able to live together for a long time" describe Mal/ Zoe rather than Mal/Kaylee?

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