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Had Firefly done Seven seasons... What ending would have suited you?

POSTED BY: TheSomnambulist
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Wednesday, March 23, 2011 2:03 PM

I see the entire crew emigrating on a gigantic starship named Shepherd Book, which is carrying a cargo of short-range spaceships to the Solar system. Since none of the ships need protection from vacuum, the starship is open sided to save weight, revealing the cargo. If you look close, in the last few seconds of the final episode, you see that one of those spaceships is Serenity.

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity", where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, March 23, 2011 2:07 PM

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
Hey Wish

Not jumping down your throat, just genuinely curious. As there is no right or wrong to this I'd have thought we're all on pretty safe ground.




It weren't you I was concerned with






I also like taking on the Blue Sun thing(needs to be run by an Asian to help explain why everyone cusses in Mandarin- that and Asians can make great villians)...Someone mentioned possible alliances with the other people who were experimented on...I don't know how many River's one ship can safely hold???

Hmm. A fractured crew fighting off a two fold attack and then they find out about Inara. I think they outta pick up a female merc for Jayne (think I.R.A. and wouldn't that be fun)...I think I'm still thinkng how another movie would end, not the series though...

Whatever happens, as long as Joss is at the reigns, I'll be happy with..


I also think Inara wants kids, but I don't think she's gonna get 'em for some reason... Just me...

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Wednesday, March 23, 2011 2:30 PM

Mal gets killed by a pissed off evil Zoe after the death of Wash and the stillbirth of their baby (due to Joss's "NO MORE BABIES" mandate). Jayne takes her out but it's too late for Simon to save the captain.

Inara would be long since dead from her illness or whatever.

Simon and Kaylee would be married and inherit the ship. Jayne would stay on due to his growing respect for Simon and his "family" bond with Kaylee.

River would leave the ship and head off on her own to join the underground movement that helped save her from the academy.

Book - dead since Serenity.

Wash - dead since Serenity.

There would of course be new crew members by that point. No idea where their stories would go.

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Wednesday, March 23, 2011 2:57 PM

I've always thought Jayne and Saffron would be a fun and hilarious hookup. Can you imagine the backstabbing?

Although granted we could get that with a Mal and Saffron hook up, it just seems Jayne would be better at the backstabbing, or sometimes the lucky blunder that messes up Saffron's plans.

I guess shifting the pairing from Mal/Saffron to Jayne/Saffron depends on whether Mal is even attracted to Saffron anymore. He's still tricked pretty easily by her wiles, but from the frisking in Trash I get the feeling that whatever seduction she tries he doesn't want anywhere near it. But that could be Foe-Yay.

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Wednesday, March 23, 2011 4:02 PM

As has been pointed out, in a 7-season run, there would be twists and turns and cast changes as-yet-unimagined.

I've thought about this topic A LOT as part of the Virtual Firefly series that I was head writer for. We tried to be very loyal to Joss's vision, intentions, and agenda (in Firefly and other projects), and I had a definite image for where the Virtual Series would have gone by it's Seventh Season finale. I'd like to think that it's like something Joss would have come up with.

To get to that finale, we have to first consider some of those twists and turns that might have happened in future seasons (although I will stay away from introducing new characters).

Before the finale:

1) Zoe gives birth. Eventually leaves the ship (probably around season four).

2) Mal and Inara get together. Mal and Inara break up. Deal with it. It's what Joss does.

3) Kaylee and Simon have a relationship. Kaylee and Simon break up. DEAL WITH IT. It's what Joss does. Be happy they're both still alive!

4) A new Browncoat movement arises, fights a second war. Mal wants nothing to do with it. One of the leaders of the new movement is--surprise, surprise--the Operative.

5) At some point, the crew needs a second Firefly for a job, so they create the Duplicity from junkyard parts. As the series progresses, the ship is fully rebuilt, then eventually captained by Simon (who briefly leaves Serenity to fight in the war) and later Saffron (who joins both Mal's crew and Simon's crew at various points).

6) The crew fights one or more clones or River, who are agents of Blue Sun.

Set-up within Season Seven or just before:

1) Simon and Inara become a couple. Since it's too awkward on the ship, they head to the Core, where Simon is a promising, crusading politician, aided by Inara's savvy and connections.

2) As the season progresses, Inara's condition worses, and Simon becomes devoted to (obessed with) saving her, or at least being there for her. He becomes increasingly withdrawn.

3) Mal and Kaylee are also a couple, not because of an undying passion for one another (indeed, she often feels that he may leave her at any moment) but because of their shared love of Serenity (in essence, their "child").

4) Saffron is captaining the Duplicity, possibly with a wacky crew of her own. She does jobs for Simon/Inara and sometimes teams up with Mal. She has offered most of the crew spots on her ship, and near the end of the season, Jayne goes over, because she's more prosperous than Mal and promises to make him first mate.

5) Zoe and the Jude (the Operative) keep crossing paths and have an odd relationship. Not a romance, per se, because she despises him so, but if she can forgive him, she can purge the bile that has built up inside her through the years.

6) The crew (at least some of them) discover (possibly in the sixth season finale) that "their" River is a clone, and that the real River Tam is actually one of the Big Bads in Blue Sun.

Now, for the finale:

1) In the finale, we discover Blue Sun's end game: it involves looking for mankind elsewhere via psychics (a process/device that mirrors the fear-driven "mainframe" in DOLLHOUSE). That's why they made psychics in the first place.

Ultimately, we will discover that Earth-that-Was isn't quite as "was" as we thought, or perhaps there's another "settlement" of folk between Earth-that-Was and the Verse that we know. Point is, there's more of mankind out there.

2) Evil River kidnaps Kaylee in an effort to get their hands on our River. Needless to say, Mal has to go with war with Blue Sun, and he call on every resource available.

2a) He asks Saffron and Jayne for help, but they're in the middle of a huge money-making opportunity, so they turn him down (although Jayne feels a little bad about it).

2b) Simon can't help because Inara suddenly collapses, but he sends resources that only money can buy... possibly a group of soldiers or mercenaries for Mal to command.

2c) Mal asks Zoe for help--the first time he's done so since she had

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Wednesday, March 23, 2011 4:17 PM

Mal and Inara get married

Zoe becomes a shepherd

Jayne becomes a security guard at the Companion Training House

Simon beats the crap out of his parents, and has them taken to Higgins Moon, to spend the rest of their lives as apprentice Mudders.

Kaylee becomes a successful author, writing about her experiences in the black.

River, with assistance from The Operative, topples the Alliance Govt., and is unanimously confirmed as President of the New Republic.








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Wednesday, March 23, 2011 4:37 PM

You do have some interesting ideas Gwek. I may not agree with all of them, but you do.

Although it always kinda bugs me how you tell people to "deal with it." Yeah, we know that Joss breaks up pairings, but is it so wrong to still like the original pairings? Even then, he does have SOME main pairings that are kind of on-and-off again, if not fairly stable (like in Dollhouse).

Clones and Earth-that-Was... I have to admit you lose me there. I've just never seen why anyone would still be interested in Earth-That-Was in the verse beyond the curiosity, I don't see how Earth-That-Was offers anyone anything.

But I like your Zoe and Jude storyline. And we end kind of similar with Serenity River seeing the end of Blue Sun. :)

And to be fair to the clone thing, it's KIND of what happened in Dollhouse. I think Joss scavenged a lot of his ideas for Dollhouse from his endgame he had planned for Firefly.

Which is why I see Simon and Kaylee, because I see some similarity between them and Victor and Sierra. I can totally imagine Simon leaving Kaylee with a kid to go off to work against Blue Sun and the Alliance, possibly with some enhancements he's made using medicine and stolen technology. Maybe they break up because of it. Maybe not.

Mal might not end up with Inara, I could even see your scenario where he ends up with Kaylee, but I still ship M/I (just get kind of the same vibe from M/K as I do M/R, just doesn't work for me).

Mal or Simon might die, because they have some overlap in a way with Ballard from Dollhouse (Mal personality-wise, Simon role-wise, or maybe both for Mal if Joss was planning to go Mal/River). Mal's death has possibly been foreshadowed in the short story Crystal.

River and Echo overlap a lot, but River might also die, her death was also potentially foreshadowed in Crystal (along with Inara's).

I appreciate your leaving River unattached. Not many people do that. I think River's become something a little beyond mortal ken, so pairing her off I don't see as the priority.

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Wednesday, March 23, 2011 4:41 PM

So Gwek....You haven't thought about this or anything, huh....

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Wednesday, March 23, 2011 4:51 PM

Zoe as a Shepherd, that's another interesting possibility.

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Wednesday, March 23, 2011 5:52 PM

I also like the Butch Cassidy and Sundance ending, especially if it could be from Mal and Jayne taking out Blue Sun.

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