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Dr. Michio Kaku talks about Firefly: Bushwhacked.

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Thursday, March 17, 2011 3:25 AM

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Absolutely. Artificial gravity is both huge part in the day to day, AND a big part in how Serenity is actually mobile.

Unfortunately, this is pure sci-fi and doesn't have any basis in current or developing technology right now.



Except for , no , it's untrue , what Byte said...

No offense , but the tech is in existence , it does work , and more than that cannot be said about it.

It's 'in the black'.

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Thursday, March 17, 2011 4:19 AM

If I'm wrong, then show me the theory work. I don't need 100% irrefutable proof, I'll even accept just the logic if it makes sense, it's how I've become to believe a number of conspiracy theories. But I don't believe everything either. It has to make sense.

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Thursday, March 17, 2011 4:51 AM

Went completely 'black' about 10 years ago.

Can't show you...Got no need to be locked up.

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Thursday, March 17, 2011 1:40 PM

Look, even government mind control research and experiments are well reported on, and information getting out on that is a hell of a lot more damaging to the government than anti-gravity research. Someone would hack into the computers and steal it, because the government is incompetent in general and the hackers have a tech and creativity advantage.

Besides, it's not like your mysterious artificial gravity claim from ten years ago is all that mysterious.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_Gravity#Gravity_generator.2Fgr
avitomagnetism


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_Podkletnov#Podkletnov.27s_gravity_
reflection_beam


So no, they're not going to drag you away or anything.

Frankly, I'm sympathetic to Eugene Podkletnov, and I can see how sometimes when the media grabs hold of something and misinterprets it, it can result in unwarranted discrediting of the author. But on the other hand, even reading what he claims to have done so far, I don't think we're anywhere NEAR artificial gravity generators yet, to me it sounds like we're barely at the point of being able to detect tiny changes in the existing field around a moving object. Grav screening, maybe, but so far it sounds like what we've managed is not yet useful, especially not for propelling a space ship.

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Saturday, March 19, 2011 5:13 PM

Tell you what, I just appreciate the Science Channel is making the effort to hook a new audience. Obviously there will be debates on what is or isn't, what can or can't be, but ultimately, it's just shiny to see her on the air again and getting proper attention. :)

That being said, remember, at one time flying machines and submersible vessels were once deemed "impossible".

"We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty."


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Monday, March 21, 2011 2:58 AM

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Look, even government mind control research and experiments are well reported on, and information getting out on that is a hell of a lot more damaging to the government than anti-gravity research. Someone would hack into the computers and steal it, because the government is incompetent in general and the hackers have a tech and creativity advantage.

Besides, it's not like your mysterious artificial gravity claim from ten years ago is all that mysterious.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_Gravity#Gravity_generator.2Fgr
avitomagnetism


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_Podkletnov#Podkletnov.27s_gravity_
reflection_beam


So no, they're not going to drag you away or anything...

...I don't think we're anywhere NEAR artificial gravity generators yet, to me it sounds like we're barely at the point of being able to detect tiny changes in the existing field around a moving object. Grav screening, maybe, but so far it sounds like what we've managed is not yet useful, especially not for propelling a space ship.



A lot of the information about mind control has gone straight down the 'memory hole'.

There were a lot more resources on those subjects prior to the I-net...but in the form of books...Many of the books are difficult or impossible to find now , and many are systematically eliminated from Libraries.

What you were able to find on gravity experiments with your cursory search is not even scratching the surface...Podkletnov was , and is , just a neophyte.

Seems that you don't have a good notion what it means when a technology 'goes black'. It means that evidence of it is systematically erased. It means that the science that supports it is no longer 'open'. It means that all of it is gone , 'in vacuo'. It means that no one is allowed to know anything they are not authorized to know...That means , for you , you probably won't learn anything about it anytime soon , if ever.

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Monday, March 21, 2011 3:16 AM

"That means , for you , you probably won't learn anything about it anytime soon , if ever."

Because I'm not yet ready to be educated? Either way I look at that seems to be something to take pride in.

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Monday, March 21, 2011 11:19 PM

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Originally posted by Bytemite:

Because I'm not yet ready to be educated? Either way I look at that seems to be something to take pride in.



Did I mention education ?

Not sure I recall that. I have no doubts abouts you being educable , that is up to you , of course...Your personal readiness.

Being authorized is another matter. If you were authorized , you wouldn't have to ask. I cannot authorize you , and presently I doubt that I know anyone who can. Sorry.

The way that people most often approach matters that they disbelieve is with the attitude "I'll believe it when I see it."

What more often works for minds that really want to know is the attitude , "I'll see it when I believe it."

The first creation of everything is the mental visualization. No actualization is possible without the first creation.

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Monday, March 21, 2011 11:51 PM

I don't particularly believe in any of that stuff either. >_> If I did, I'd be religious.

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