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Hearings on "Domestic Muslim Terrorism"

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UPDATED: Monday, March 21, 2011 20:42
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AURAPTOR

Friday, March 18, 2011 12:20 AM

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Originally posted by canttakesky:

If it is indeed NO to the second, then call it by some other name than "Muslim." Call them "pseudo-Muslims" or "Perverted Quran Fundamentalists." If you don't think this violence is generalizable to the ideology of all Muslims, then calling the violence "Muslim" is inaccurate and pejorative.

A valid point.

Agreed.

AURAPTOR

Friday, March 18, 2011 12:22 AM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Right-wing Christian terrorist:

Phony, empty Left wing propaganda.

Got any ACTUAL examples ?

AURAPTOR

Friday, March 18, 2011 12:30 AM

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Originally posted by USBrowncoat:
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Right-wing Christian terrorist:

Funny and true. I cringe whenever a Pol says the word god. Mr. Bush was the worst.

Stupid and false. As an atheist, I had no problem w/ Bush and his utterances of 'God'. Neither does it bother me with Mitt Romney or Joe Lieberman. Why ? Because they are consistent in their beliefs, and aren't using 'god' as a prop.

Newt's 'conversion' to Catholicism? I'm skeptical.

AlGore's pulpit pounding orations, complete with negro dialect ? C'mon... complete and total fakery and pandering.

BYTEMITE

Friday, March 18, 2011 1:17 AM

As someone who lives in Utah, and has to hear Mormon's gushing over their poster boy when he doesn't live up to the standards, I may have to disagree on Mitt Romney.

Mitt Romney just BUGS me.

CANTTAKESKY

Friday, March 18, 2011 1:21 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
A valid point.

Agreed.

Wow. I did not expect that.

But this helps me understand better where you are coming from. So thank you for taking the time to explain.

AURAPTOR

Friday, March 18, 2011 1:30 PM

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
As someone who lives in Utah, and has to hear Mormon's gushing over their poster boy when he doesn't live up to the standards, I may have to disagree on Mitt Romney.

Mitt Romney just BUGS me.

Where's he failed to live up to the standards ?

Sure, Mitt's in good shape, has lots of $$, has a nice looking wife and family, and has accomplished results in the real world..... I can see how that would annoy some folks.

But you know what ? GET OVER IT !

BYTEMITE

Friday, March 18, 2011 3:32 PM

The real question is, why do YOU like him so much? He was governor of Massachusetts and he passed his own healthcare reform in Massachusetts. He weaseled out of the draft for Vietnam using his daddy's money. Those are things that matter to you, right?

He's just another neocon pretending to be a tea partier. And I don't buy all of his turn-around stories, I think he's a bit of a hustler, and the how of how he turned things around has been whitewashed in favour of highlighting the successes after the fact, assuming those turnarounds were even because of him. And if Frem is to be believed, that's even less reason for me to like him.

Go for Huckabee or Ron Paul and I won't complain too much. But Mitt? All my relatives just LOVE Mitt, and I think they're being tricked. So don't you fall in that trap either.

FREMDFIRMA

Friday, March 18, 2011 5:20 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Where's he failed to live up to the standards ?

As a human being ? everywhere.

http://reason.com/archives/2007/06/27/romney-torture-and-teens

http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2007/06/mitt-romney-and-teen-tort
ure-industry.html

That fucker and his little collective was one of the prime movers and financiers behind the hellcamps, and will never stand a chance politically because for all their flaws, Mormons do care greatly for their children, and when this information is revealed to them tend to immediately consider him the scumsucking evil critter he really is.
(Hint to Byte: Show em this, especially Will Griggs link and the pics of High Impact, courtesy of well... you know...)

Some stains never wash off, and do you really think me and mine won't feed every ounce of his dirt to the media and encourage a feeding frenzy, every single time he throws his hat in the ring ?

And as if that weren't enough, the bastard has so many other skeletons in his closet one could drag them out in a conga line singing Kumbaya.

Of course, if you go ahead and support his monstrous deeds, that tells us a lot about YOU, too.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

NIKI2

Friday, March 18, 2011 5:33 PM

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If you don't think this violence is generalizable to the ideology of all Muslims, then calling the violence "Muslim" is inaccurate and pejorative.
A valid point.

Agreed.

This shocked the hell out of me, too, CTS, and almost makes me hope...

Does this mean, Raptor, that you will cease calling all terrorism and/or violence perpetrated (in this country at the very LEAST) by crazies who in no way reflect the Islamic faith “Muslim terrorism”? It’s almost too hard to believe you actually CAN see past the propagandistic terminology, but I’m not holding my breath yet. To be very clear: If you agree with CTS’ point, does that mean you will do what she suggested and leave behind the over-arching, pejorative term “Muslim terrorism”?

If that were possible, it would be lovely. I would suggest "jihaddist terrorism", "fanatical terrorism", "fundamentalist terrorism", ANY old term other than the blanket "Muslim"... But I'll wait to see what you have to say, 'cuz I'm still having trouble integrating the idea that you understand the concept and would be willing to allow those of the Islamic faith the respect you do those of the Christian faith.

AURAPTOR
Friday, March 18, 2011 10:05 PM

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
The real question is, why do YOU like him so much? He was governor of Massachusetts and he passed his own healthcare reform in Massachusetts. He weaseled out of the draft for Vietnam using his daddy's money. Those are things that matter to you, right?

He tried healthcare on the state level, and it failed. Lesson learned.

'Weaseled' ? Did he write his recruiter and state that he 'loathed' the military ? And as I recall, from Dole, W and McCain, three who did wear a uniform, none of that mattered to most folks anyway. Reagan didn't serve, so no, military background isn't a deal breaker, either way.

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He's just another neocon pretending to be a tea partier. And I don't buy all of his turn-around stories, I think he's a bit of a hustler, and the how of how he turned things around has been whitewashed in favour of highlighting the successes after the fact, assuming those turnarounds were even because of him. And if Frem is to be believed, that's even less reason for me to like him.

The TEA party stuff didn't get geared up until after the '08 election, so I don't see what that has to do w/ Mitt specifically. Look at what he's done before he ran, in '08. Hustler ? If anyone is a hustler, its the Huckster himself, Gov. Huckabee. I don't trust that guy. Period.

Frem is never to be believed, from my experience.

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Go for Huckabee or Ron Paul and I won't complain too much. But Mitt? All my relatives just LOVE Mitt, and I think they're being tricked. So don't you fall in that trap either.

Ron Paul has some good ideas, but he's far too much a strict idealogical, and doesn't seem to grasp the ability to get from where we are, to where he wants to get us. Yes, I appreciate his strict adherence to the US Constitution. It's a beautiful document, and those who wrote it should be praised and honored. Honored by running the gov in the vision they had, not with faces on dollar bills and monuments. JMHO.

Plus, Ron Paul is freaking old. He's got zero shot vs Obama when it comes to the MTV mindset most voters have these days. RP's ideas blow Obama's out of the water, but we've seen Dole and McCain already. I don't need to see the 3rd act of that play.

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