9.0 in Japan
POSTED BY: canttakesky
UPDATED: Monday, August 24, 2026 01:23
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Originally posted by QuestionableQuestionality:
I don't think sending money or support is what the Japanese need right now. They could probably use a boat-load of dry towels and shams most. The trouble with being asian on Japan isn't the huge waves that can slam the coast, but not having evolved the proper eye to see the waves before it is too late. Koreans would have had no problem seeing the waves coming, because unlike the Japanese the Korean's eyes are set at a 56 degree angle to the horizon and not the rediculous 67 degree slant the poor Japs have got.
Gut-wrenching.
Blah...the only thing gut-wrenching is that god made the japs too short to see tidal waves coming. Their eyes are great...they can be high and no-one knows..know what I'm sayin...If that happened in any white country 5 guys would die...not thousands....it is true.
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Been glued to the TV all morning, and last night. I was JUST going to bed when the tsunami hit, so once again I got to watch something happening before my eyes...which is creepy.
The mantle moved 150 miles by 50 miles...that's a lot of earth. They've had OVER 50 "aftershocks" (tho' I wouldn't call them that!), none UNDER 6.0, many in the 7s. I can't conceive of that...our Loma Prieta was only a 7.9!!!
The reason I've been glued to the TV is that we've been hit here in Santa Cruz. NOTHING like Japan, obviously, but Santa Cruz harbor is a real mess, and Crescent City, up north, has had it's harbor completely demolished--I hope Eureka didn't suffer anything; we haven't HEARD anything about youse guys, but Crescent City Harbor took a real hit.. Up there it's fishing boats, so most of them left harbor when they knew there was a tsunami coming, and the 35 boats left in the harbor are destroyed.
In Santa Cruz, the bay funnels water right into the harbor, so it increases the strength as it gets funnelled down, and it was pretty hard to watch. I saw a beach I knew where the water went out about twice as far as I've ever seen it recede, then come roaring in and cover that ENTIRE SPACE in one set of waves right after another. Astonishing.
Of course the video from Japan's tsunam is incredibly more powerful...to see it from the air instead of hotel balconies is awe inspiring...and devastating to watch. But Santa Cruz is closer to home--as a teenager I went to the beaches there every weekend. When that stuff came in, it gave me goosebumps; 25+ boats now sunk, they said "hundreds" damaged. Crescent City got it much worse, but we've had no videos from there. It's right under the Oregon borders, so got hit first.
My heart goes out to all those in Japan, since I think everyone in that country is being affected one way or another. And sympathies to the people in Crescent City (so far 3 dead) and Santa Cruz (like the guy who lived on his boat, grabbed his dog at first warning and watched his boat and all his earthly belongings capsize and sink).
Japan has, by the way, one of the best earthquake-warning systems in the world, and their big buildings are made to withstand even this. Will be fascinating to see how they withstand this big a 'quake and this MANY aftershocks of what would normally be hefty quakes by themselves.
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Has anyone heard anything definitive about the two nuclear power plants having trouble in Japan? All afternoon they were worrying about one; it's usual coolant system power AND their back-up diesel had both failed; they evacuated and let off some slightly radioactive steam, but apparently that wasn't doing it and they were actually talkinb about a possible meltdown! They mentioned a second one, but I never got any details. I hope THOSE are going okay!!!
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Originally posted by Niki2:
Has anyone heard anything definitive about the two nuclear power plants having trouble in Japan? All afternoon they were worrying about one; it's usual coolant system power AND their back-up diesel had both failed; they evacuated and let off some slightly radioactive steam, but apparently that wasn't doing it and they were actually talkinb about a possible meltdown! They mentioned a second one, but I never got any details. I hope THOSE are going okay!!!
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Let me guess hippie, we should get rid of all N. power plants? Come on you know you want to say it.....NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Hey asshole...had work real hard to find something you could twist to attack me with, din'tcha? So sad...go play with the other children and leave the adults to the adult conversation. I'm WORRIED, you prick; Japan's been through some horrendous stuff in the past 24, I'm scared for them that they might endure even more. Goes right over your head, I know, but at least I gave you the satisfaction of being answered. That's all the attention you get from me.
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You plain shouldn't have nuclear power plants near a fault zone where there could be earthquakes. This is a perfect example of why that's a horrendously bad idea. I'm reasonably okay with people putting nuclear power in places where this isn't a danger, my only problem with that is everyone wants to send the waste to Utah (which has faults too, so eventually there will be a release to groundwater out here no matter how you want to look at it).
And the problem with sending it to Utah is it's a health hazard because I know the company safety people here in Utah don't really give a damn about securing their hazardous or radioactive wastes. As a consultant helping investors go back in to clean up those sites to improve the property value (buy cheap, sell high), I have seen some ungodly messes out here.
I'd have no issues if people learned to take responsibility for themselves and their own messes.
In any case, meltdown in japan: bad. It's a small island, most everyone there would conceivably get hit depending on wind patterns. And the US would get hit too, I mean if we get China's pollution this is pretty much for certain we'd get Japan fallout.
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Looks like a portion of the coast line of Japan has been redrawn. Meaning, a lot of that water which rushed inland....won't be leaving. Ever. Square miles of inhabited land will likely be lost and abandoned.
The nuclear power plants.... that's just a horrific scenario. Seems this has been getting worse all day, and I don't wanna think of the worst. Hope they can figure out some answer to the cooling system problem, before we have duel Chernobyl events.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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Alas RWED is really troll country.
I see there's an issue with nuclear plants.
Also, two missing presumed dead in california from tsunami. I don't know about Hawaii. I suspect the really high casualty counts will be coming in from the usual suspects: Indonesia, possibly the Philippines.
That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.
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Originally posted by Bytemite:
You plain shouldn't have nuclear power plants near a fault zone where there could be earthquakes.
You have a better idea? I mean, it beats invading someone else's country, or poisoning the drinking water for nat'l gas. Japanese industry consumes a lot of power making the products the rest of us use, and they really lack a native energy source of any significant wattage.
This thought occurred to me actually: The floating nuclear plant ;)
That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.
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Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told attendees at a meeting of President Obama's Export Council that a Japanese nuclear power plant "came under a lot of stress as a result of the quake and did not have enough coolant." The Air Force, she said, made an emergency delivery of coolant to the plant.
The New York Times reported that Tokyo Electric Power had shutdown its plant in Fukishima, a two-hour drive north of the city, and declared an atomic power emergency after a mechanical failure in the cooling system.
Navy Cmdr. Jeff Davis, a spokesman for the 7th Fleet, said in an e-mail from the USS Blue Ridge that the command has directed all helicopter-capable ships in the fleet to be ready to sail to Japan in the next 24 hours to aid in relief operations. The Blue Ridge, the 7th Fleet command ship, was docked in Singapore when Davis sent his message.
Davis, said the USS Essex, a helicopter carrier currently in Malaysia, will sail for Japan tomorrow and added the USS Tortuga, a landing ship dock, left Sasebo, Japan, on Friday to pick up Air Force MH-53 helicopters based in Korea.
The USS Ronald Reagan carrier strike group, currently operating in the Western Pacific, was directed to proceed at the best safe speed to the main Japanese island of Honshu, the epicenter of the earthquake, with arrival expected in 36 hours, Davis said. The 7th Fleet also redirected two other dock landing ships to Japan -- the USS Harpers Ferry and USS Germantown, Davis said.
The Blue Ridge will depart for Japan tomorrow after loading humanitarian kits that include water, blankets, tarps, surgical masks, body bags, water purification tablets, and other supplies, Davis said. It is expected to arrive in six days.
http://www.nextgov.com/nextgov/ng_20110311_4039.php?oref=topstory
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