Top Secret video of WTC explosive controlled demolition on 9/11
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UPDATED: Monday, March 14, 2011 03:46
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Quote:Come up with your own insult. Your lack of originality is showing.
Originally posted by canttakesky:Quote:Why WAS there nothing obstructing the path of the floors above? Could it be because the lower floors were destroyed in advance of the fall, so the fall could come straight down without hitting anything to make it tip over?
Originally posted by BNW:
Nothing will be going sideways when nothing is pushing or pulling sideways.
That is what demolition crews do, you know.
YOU take a physics class. It's not that hard.
Try dropping a two ton boulder on your head and then ponder why your soft squishy body provides no obstruction. My god, how did the boulder fall straight down without getting tipped over by your spine of steel? Someone must have set up explosives in your innards! It's a conspiracy!
A building is not a solid immutable object of immutable stone that will hold up ANYTHING. Modern skyscrapers especially. They hold their own weight in only one way: a carefully distributed load passed along specific lines of support. A collapsing disorganized block of several upper stories does to the lower stories what that 2 ton boulder would do to your body. Squish it. Straight down.
I could point out more: the obviousness that the building hit lower down fell first, as it had much more weight bearing down on the weakened spot. I could post videos of the second building that showed long corner columns standing a few seconds after the rest of it went down, showing that the upper stories tore their way through the center of the structure as they fell. Or I could point out the ridiculous notion that the dark, mysterious "THEY" somehow managed to know exactly what floors would be hit and put in explosives only on the floors below the impacts. And THEY did it when? In the few panicked minutes after the buildings were hit? Or in the months before, yet no one noticed?
I won't bother any more argument, because I'm sure it's been said, but the conspiracy nuts are sold on their conspiracy theories, logic and science and engineering and REALITY be damned. Well, being an ignorant sod does nothing but trap you into the life and mental state of an ignorant sod.
Enjoy.
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Quote:"Pancake" is not a good word to use, unless you want to counter the official story that there was no pancaking.
Originally posted by Hardware:
But in all 3 cases once the fire caused the structural steel to fail it led to a pancake collapse.
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http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm
NIST’s findings do not support the “pancake theory” of collapse, which is premised on a progressive failure of the floor systems in the WTC towers (the composite floor system—that connected the core columns and the perimeter columns—consisted of a grid of steel “trusses” integrated with a concrete slab; see diagram below). Instead, the NIST investigation showed conclusively that the failure of the inwardly bowed perimeter columns initiated collapse and that the occurrence of this inward bowing required the sagging floors to remain connected to the columns and pull the columns inwards. Thus, the floors did not fail progressively to cause a pancaking phenomenon.
Anyway, yes, yes, I know the official story says nothing exactly like this has ever happened before, which is why no fire in the history of fires has ever made a building collapse in this fashion.
It stands to reason though, if nothing like this has happened before, and this is the very first time a vertical collapse has happened presumably without explosives, we should be open to several different explanations. Not just jump on one and defend it to the dying breath, you know?
In other words, we should take into account the WHOLE of the physical evidence and tested the steel for explosive residue, like any good arson investigation would have done. But they didn't do it. Why? Because they already had the answer they wanted, so to hell with the physical evidence.
Also, firefighters are not the only ones who question the official story.
Here you have architects and engineers for 9/11 truth:
http://www.ae911truth.org/index.php
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Quote:Including steel beams? Yeah, right.
Originally posted by BNW:
A collapsing disorganized block of several upper stories does to the lower stories what that 2 ton boulder would do to your body. Squish it. Straight down.
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Originally posted by canttakesky:Quote:Well, plenty of people admit it. It's just the rest of the folks who don't want to consider that possibility chalk us up as crazy.
Originally posted by dreamtrove:
The US govt. attacked its own citizenry. Everybody knows, but no one wants to admit it.
I'm one of those that thinks this would be an insanely complex plan to pull off, full of plenty of Fail points along the way. It was hard enough just what the hijackers did let alone coordinating that with the demo teams. Were they just sitting around on call to time the explosions? "Haji's in the bird, ETA to Square+1 in 30 minutes..."
And too many people would have to know. You couldn't reasonably expect that many people who knew something this big to not blab or try to cash in.
CTS - you said; "Well, plenty of people admit it." who are they?
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Other motives of interest are the motives of the truthers. Chaos and fluke accidents that kill more than 3,000 people in a morning are very difficult for folk to process or accept. Much as "primitive" folk looked into the sky and posited beings throwing the lightning around and making the crops grow, the modern conspiracist is looking for the god of evil--or more to the point, his high priests. The whole conspiracy industry is a Freudian mess of the ultimate crimes in search of the ultimate criminals. Somebody must be in charge! Somebody must be to blame! There must be someone for me to openly hate and secretly worship!
And then there's the contempt for human beings that suggests that millions of Americans are just plain idiots who would stick their heads in the sand rather than doubt the "integrity" of a manifest fucking asshole like Dick Cheney. Well, it's all Freud again--all us sheeple want to protect papa Dick. Or else chaos will ensue. See, to the conspiracist, there is only one reality: some ultra powerful person or body is in charge, and only two choices: either you despise said person or body on principle and live a tragic life of utter victimization under the omnipotent heel of said person or body, or you toadie up to said person or body and live in a fairytale 'cause, you know, reality is just too hard for us.
Someone please explain to me why anyone who was willing to kill 3,000 people simply to advance a domestic political agenda would give a flying fuck whether it fell into its footprint or fell sideways killing even more puny humans? Seriously, if I was Dr. Evil and I had the choice between a cozy little demolition and seeing the building fall like a gargantuan tree across lower Manhattan, why wouldn't I go for the gusto--PARTICULARLY, when killing more people would be so much easier?
Option number 3: sometimes criminals are extraordinarily lucky.
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As far as the controlled demolition of WTC1, please view the attached video at 1:50 you will see a descending level of destruction as the building collapses into itself.
So, about those secret conspiracies...
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Quote:
Originally posted by HKCavalier:
Option number 3: sometimes criminals are extraordinarily lucky.
That is certainly a possibility. From all accounts, EXTRAORDINARY luck is the ONLY explanation that would allow the official story to be true.
Each step of the 9/11 attacks was not impossible, but highly improbable. Combine a sequential series of highly improbable events, and the probability drops down exponentially. The criminals would have had to have Felix Felicis to have accomplished these steps successfully.
Given that scenario, it is not unreasonable to consider other alternative explanations that are way more parsimonious than extreme luck.
Everything said about motives or lack of motives is conjecture. Nobody knows "why would they" or "how come they didn't." As I said, motive is certainly an important part of the investigation, but it is all guesswork.
Many truthers simply want the physical evidence explained. That's it.
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Quote:They are generally nicknamed "truthers."
Originally posted by pizmobeach:
CTS - you said; "Well, plenty of people admit it." who are they?
Not all truthers believe it was the work of the US govt. But many truthers believe these events would not be possible without the help of some people in the US govt.
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Quote:Huh? Nobody disputes this.
Originally posted by Hardware:
...you will see a descending level of destruction as the building collapses into itself.
Buildings exhibit a descending level of destruction and collapse onto themselves in demolition jobs, you know.
What this video doesn't show is WHY the building collapsed onto itself.
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Originally posted by canttakesky:Quote:They are generally nicknamed "truthers."
Originally posted by pizmobeach:
CTS - you said; "Well, plenty of people admit it." who are they?
Not all truthers believe it was the work of the US govt. But many truthers believe these events would not be possible without the help of some people in the US govt.
Ok - when you said "admit" I thought you meant people who were involved were admitting, "I was in on it, this is how it went down..."
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