Please stop scaring Nathan

POSTED BY: Zeek
UPDATED: Monday, March 7, 2011 18:12
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I agree it got way out of proportion, when I saw the website one day after Nathan made the comment I was rather shocked, at the time I said it was the oddest thing I'd ever seen online, people getting that excited that fast. But for better or worse it put Browncoats out there for the world to see. I don't want Nathan to be afraid to mention Firefly in future interviews, but he just might be since this got soooo out there soooo fast.

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If he is "scared" he should grow the hell up. Even if he doesn't give a damn about firefly anymore and would prefer people to stop talking about it, people have a right to not only like but want to raise money to do something with the concept.

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Originally posted by Zeek:
If you want Nathan to keep talking about Firefly in interviews then back off. I'm sure Browncoats can show some patience and restraint if we all try just a little.

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You back off.

I don't want him to keep talking about it. I want him to shut up. Clearly now all he cares about is Castle. But if fans want to raise money its none of his business or is it any of yours.

And anybody who says they are ashamed of this or other pejoratives should just shut up and find some one fandom to be condescending towards.

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I don't want him to keep talking about it. I want him to shut up.

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Holy bajezzelbub guys. It's really a heck of a lot more complicated than "Nathan doesn't want us to raise money for Firefly, so he hates us and Firefly now!"

Um, no. Demonstrably no. For one, he's still talking about it TEN YEARS after the fact, and hasn't minded being asked about it in interviews at all. Even when he's moved on to a show that's arguably more well known and successful. I dunno, don't you kinda think he must like Firefly in that case?

For legal reasons right now, he's had to back off of something he said before, but even if this whole thing qualifies as a negative encounter with the fans, you all think that obliterates what he enjoyed about the show and the friends he made? They still hang out together.

I mean, if you want to resent that he HAS to calm people down here (for legal reasons), okay, but then again he also hasn't told people that they can't or shouldn't 1) raise money (see: Can't Take The Serenity charity events), or 2) continue trying to get Firefly on the air. The point he's making here is that he can't accept your money (for legal reasons), not that browncoats shouldn't raise money or work for causes (which they do).

In fact, I seem to remember him saying "keep on being great Browncoats, which you are!"

So, wow. Whoa. And holy cow, people.

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Originally posted by Channain:
Earlier today, when I mentioned it, it was 110K and some change. Right now, it's 113K and some change. Not even sure that counts everyone who is talking about this on Twitter and elsewhere in the world.

Remember what I said about researching that assumption you're making? Seriously, you can ASSUME anything. It's allowed. What's not allowed is not doing the work and backing up the assumption with fact.

To build a good argument is to make declarative sentences, back them up with some good premises and end with a viable conclusion based on that information.

To just ASSUME and POST really puts the ASSUMER into a totally awkward situation of saying things like, "I haven't seen..." which leads to, "Buh-buy credibility."

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Now you're just sounding petty. So, if the website is up to 150,000 right now then you've lost all credibility? Things are always changing. We can't know everything at all times. Just like I'm sure the networks and studios aren't glued to the website followers. If they only looked when I did when it was around 30,000 and never came back. You can't ASSUME they have gone back to see where it's at today. See how petty that sounds? Not worth being all attacky over.

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Originally posted by LexiBlock:
If he is "scared" he should grow the hell up. Even if he doesn't give a damn about firefly anymore and would prefer people to stop talking about it, people have a right to not only like but want to raise money to do something with the concept.

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Originally posted by Zeek:
If you want Nathan to keep talking about Firefly in interviews then back off. I'm sure Browncoats can show some patience and restraint if we all try just a little.

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You back off.

I don't want him to keep talking about it. I want him to shut up. Clearly now all he cares about is Castle. But if fans want to raise money its none of his business or is it any of yours.

And anybody who says they are ashamed of this or other pejoratives should just shut up and find some one fandom to be condescending towards.

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It's fine if you want Nathan or me or anyone really to shut up. I don't want Nathan to shut up so that's why I'm asking people to please not scare him into shutting up. If you don't agree then you don't agree. However, I'm not going to shut up just because you want me to.

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I was actually trying to relay a basic rule of logical and intelligent argument, not be petty. If you see it as petty, then so be it. I'm going to take the passive aggressive tactic and step out.

"Whatever you say, Zeek."

This form of communication often has the tendency of bringing one into the realm of banging one's head against the wall; There's no good use for it, and often feels REALLY good when you stop.

I shan't darken your doorstep again.

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