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UPDATED: Saturday, February 26, 2011 20:16
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QUESTIONABLEQUESTIONALITY

Saturday, February 26, 2011 1:44 PM

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Again sig with nothing to say?

SIGNYM

Saturday, February 26, 2011 1:45 PM

Wulf, I gotta say: You are heading in exactly the WRONG direction. Don't you recognize your own self interest? If you add value to the economy, YOU should have a good pension, too. Not the Wallstreeters who've been ripping everyone off.

There are only a few people on this board who have a valid interest in making the rich richer: Kaneman and Rappy (and their numerous sock puppets) who are stock traders. Not you. The only one who will be hurt by this is you.

BYTEMITE

Saturday, February 26, 2011 4:59 PM

Probably won't break the unions, probably won't be a blow to corrupt government or protect wage earners. Everyone will always find new and exciting ways to screw other people.

FREMDFIRMA

Saturday, February 26, 2011 5:45 PM

As usual, when the rules get in the way, the fuckers at the top ignore them, break them, or re-write them, often in direct defiance of the legislative process.

I know some of you idiots can't count to eleven with your shoes on, but take off your shoes and get a pencil - count the "voice vote" and then COUNT HOW MANY REPRESENTATIVES ARE THERE...

And then try to tell me that's not bullshit, I defy you.

-F

BYTEMITE

Saturday, February 26, 2011 7:12 PM

I see you sticking around. Thanks. If you got stuff to do, I'll be here a while, keeping my eye on the situation.

Keep us updated on what's going on IRL if you can.

KANEMAN

Saturday, February 26, 2011 7:56 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Wulf, I gotta say: You are heading in exactly the WRONG direction. Don't you recognize your own self interest? If you add value to the economy, YOU should have a good pension, too. Not the Wallstreeters who've been ripping everyone off.

There are only a few people on this board who have a valid interest in making the rich richer: Kaneman and Rappy (and their numerous sock puppets) who are stock traders. Not you. The only one who will be hurt by this is you.

Please, I do trade securities, however I am a certified financial advisor. I do more good in one day for others than you will do your whole miserable life....loser.

NIKI2

Saturday, February 26, 2011 8:16 PM

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As usual, when the rules get in the way, the fuckers at the top ignore them, break them, or re-write them, often in direct defiance of the legislative process.

Yup.

The "come get your paychecks" thing didn't work, by the way, and Indiana legislators have joined them. -- we might end up with legislators from all the states trying this being in OTHER states than their own. Ramming things like this through--or trying to--doesn't work toow well. When he's willing to sit down and TALK about it (and that's not another ploy), then if they don't come back people will have the right to dump on them.

I'm assuming those defending Walker didn't pay attention to that faked "Koch" phone call, where he laid it all out. He tried several ploys, besides the check thing.

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Walker also outlined a ploy to get the Wisconsin Fighting 14 back to the state. He would offer to talk to the minority leaders in both the senate and the assembly, along with the majority leaders, if the senators came back into session. Once they went into recess so leadership could talk with the governor, the 19 senate republicans could act because Walker believes the democrats don't legally need to be physically present since they had the necessary quorum prior to the recess. The really sleazy part is that he emphasized that he would just talk with them and had absolutely no intention of negotiating with them.

And Walker seemed particularly anxious to reassure Koch that the only reason he would talk to the democrats is to lure them in: "if you heard I was going to talk to them, that would be the only reason why".

Another tactic Walker said they are exploring is the possibility of filing ethics code violations against the Wisconsin Fighting 14 if the unions are found to have been paying for the senators' food and lodging. They are also awaiting an opinion from Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen as to whether felony "misconduct in office" charges could be filed for "obstruction of their ability to do their job". Seriously. I am not aware of any evidence that the unions have paid for any senator's food or lodging.

Indeed, Walker made his intentions perfectly clear:
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If they think I'm caving, they've been asleep for the last 8 years....we don't budge... we don't compromise.
Gov. Walker made it clear he sees neither collective bargaining nor the ability to organize a union as basic rights of workers.

Even more disturbing is his cavalier attitude towards the loss of jobs, seeing public employees as no more than pawns in what is clearly a game for him. He brazenly outlines his strategy to sacrifice the jobs of thousands of public employees in order to put public pressure on the senate democrats to return to the state:
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I've got lay-off notices ready... we'll announce Thursday...next week 5 to 6000 state workers will get at-risk notices ...we might ratchet that up a little bit too.
But what else would one expect from someone who not only refuses to negotiate, but has plans to lure the other side to the table with no intention of bargaining in good faith?

http://www.mnprogressiveproject.com/diary/8506/walker-reveals-agenda-t
o-faux-koch-brother

If you don't like the site, there are numerous others; http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2011
/02/24/come_back_runaway_lawmakers/?rss_id=Boston+Globe+--+Today%27s+paper+A+to+Z http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/scott-walker-wisconsin-democrats-g
et-back-work_550325.html and more.

...and by now almost everyone interested has heard the phone call itself, and Walker himself laying out his objectives and plans.

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,