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We've done the impossible...

POSTED BY: Wulfenstar
UPDATED: Sunday, February 20, 2011 15:39
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NIKI2

Thursday, February 3, 2011 9:26 PM

Excellent, Mike, I learned something today. Thank you. Reagan Solicitor General, eh? Interesting.

I find myself wondering: If it's a tax deduction, rather than a "forced mandate" with punishments, isn't the government allowed to levy taxes and deductions as it sees fit? I could be wrong, but I thought that was the case, that the legislature created taxes and tax deductions...? Because if so, doesn't that make the "constitutionality" question kind of moot, given the legislature HAS created that deduction.

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

WULFENSTAR

Wednesday, February 9, 2011 12:13 PM

Just wanted to point this out...

http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/02/08/house-unexpectedly-defeat
s-patriot-act

Btw, it wasn't a miscalculation. The Tea party has NEVER liked the Patriot Act.

1. Shut down the Patriot Act. (Working on it)

2. Destroy ObamaCare. (Working on it)

"Look at the ‘Don't Tread on Me flag.' It doesn't say don't tread on me, but it's okay if you spy," said Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), one of the most ardent opponents of the Patriot Act. "What the Republican leadership didn't count on is that they have some new members who are freshmen who are conservative, libertarian, who really do believe in civil liberties."

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

CANTTAKESKY

Wednesday, February 9, 2011 12:15 PM

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
1. Shut down the Patriot Act. (Working on it)

2. Destroy ObamaCare. (Working on it)

3. Shut down the War on Terror and bring our boys and girls home.

The Tea Party won't ever get my respect until they start working on this too.

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Everything I say is just my opinion, not fact.

KANEMAN

Wednesday, February 9, 2011 12:45 PM

4) Stop all aid to foreign countries....ALL aid.

5) Enforce the borders.

DREAMTROVE

Wednesday, February 9, 2011 1:58 PM

Abandon foolish concepts like govt., law and money.

SIGNYM

Wednesday, February 9, 2011 2:51 PM

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"Look at the ‘Don't Tread on Me flag.' It doesn't say don't tread on me, but it's okay if you spy," said Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), one of the most ardent opponents of the Patriot Act. "What the Republican leadership didn't count on is that they have some new members who are freshmen who are conservative, libertarian, who really do believe in civil liberties."

And who has been spearheading the fight against the Patriot Act? Democrats.

WULFENSTAR

Wednesday, February 9, 2011 3:54 PM

Couple of things.

1. Dems have been in power for 2 years. They COULD have ended the 2 wars, and reversed the Patriot Act. They didn't.

2. The Tea Party is working to fix the errors of the previous presidency, as well as trying to fix the errors of the current party.

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

DREAMTROVE

Wednesday, February 9, 2011 3:58 PM

Sig, Wulf, can the partisan shtick. It's been a bipartisan fight from the beginning and still is.

CANTTAKESKY

Wednesday, February 9, 2011 4:59 PM

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
1. Dems have been in power for 2 years. They COULD have ended the 2 wars, and reversed the Patriot Act. They didn't.

Everybody needs to realize that the overwhelming majority of our elected officials in BOTH parties are in favor of both the war and the Patriot Act.

The Tea Party, were they in control, would not end the Patriot Act or the war either. And if they would, they wouldn't get elected.

Very very few want a party that would limit the power of govt that drastically. Witness the impotence of the Libertarian Party or the Green Party.

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Everything I say is just my opinion, not fact.

WULFENSTAR

Wednesday, February 9, 2011 5:04 PM

You speak with cynacism, Cant.

I don't blame you for it, mind. But, I believe (have to, actually) that this group I've thrown myself in with is going to at least TRY to make a stand.

Its far past time that we changed things for the better, and from all the evidence I've seen, the people I've met,

we might actually HAVE a chance.

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"