Simon and River's Parents Involved in River's Abduction

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UPDATED: Friday, January 28, 2011 00:34
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I read over a story as a favor to a friend, it was a story I wouldn't normally choose. Anyways this friend had an idea in her story that I've never seen. It was preposed that Simon and River's parents were really part of an Alliance change/make-the-government-smaller movement and that they honestly didn't know that River was being sent to a bad place. Then when they found out they tried to get her out but couldn't let Simon succeed easily because he was doing it in an obvious manner and if he was caught it would blow their chances of getting her out. I know this is far fetched and I'm not saying I agree with it, its definitely an ... original idea, but I guess it was interesting to read a different perspective. But I think, more likely than not, the portrayal of them as not very good people is accurate, whether they did know what the academy was or not. So I tend to think its possible that they were part of the whole thing.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Originally posted by RionaEire:
I read over a story as a favor to a friend, it was a story I wouldn't normally choose. Anyways this friend had an idea in her story that I've never seen. It was preposed that Simon and River's parents were really part of an Alliance change/make-the-government-smaller movement and that they honestly didn't know that River was being sent to a bad place. Then when they found out they tried to get her out but couldn't let Simon succeed easily because he was doing it in an obvious manner and if he was caught it would blow their chances of getting her out. I know this is far fetched and I'm not saying I agree with it, its definitely an ... original idea, but I guess it was interesting to read a different perspective. But I think, more likely than not, the portrayal of them as not very good people is accurate, whether they did know what the academy was or not. So I tend to think its possible that they were part of the whole thing.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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what is this story called, sounds interesting.

by the way, are these following "scenes" some you have run into in any of the story/stories you have read.

funny scene(with River), Serenity is being boarded by criminals/pirates, do not know if they are planetbound or if they are in the black during this boarding, at some point the serenity crew has them beat, and at this point River is for some reason probably to scare the survivers, is standing over one of them and in a coldish/snobish accent(written to be of Osirian)as a gone bad highsociety debutante, asking Mal i think, of what to do with this survivor, and it is described as if they cannot get answer over there lips for a little while after hearing how River could have turned out if the Academy had let her be, and not ruined her life.

scene2(Mal and Zoe, and river as pilot)it starts with Mal/Zoe tells/asks if he/she thinks River is not happy as pilot, so they deside to ask Monty if he know of a pilot, and they get a female pilot out of it, and tells river she can now find the place/work on the ship, for her.

Scene3(S/K more familly drama related i think)
Simon talking with Kaylee: it is possible that Our mother(Reagan Tam)sent her to the school(The Academy) just to get River away, because she(River) was a slight social embarrasement for her parents, with her nearly freaky intelligence at social events.(unknowing of course of what would happen at the Academy.

scene 4(sad scene with River and pretty much everyone) if you have just recently happened to read it by pure chance:-)a scene where River comes into the eating area,(looking slightly embarrased, sad maybe even a bit sick(and not because of the drugs Simon gives her)) where Inara finds out that the guild might have broken one of there own rules by giving a special medical drug to The Academy(one that stop the female monthlies-cycle as long as the drug is taken.)
And River tells that she had been told she could not have children because something had happened atthe school, an now she begins to suffer from the withdrawals from it, by plumbing right back into that monthly cyckle.

Friendly greetings from KrelleK.

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Originally posted by BrowncoatBear:

I am a conspiracy theorist.

For good reasons, I believe that Simon and River's parents were working with the Alliance, and had agreed to let them abduct her and experiment on her. I believe that there was some consideration given to Mr. and Mrs. Tam in exchange for their complicity.

My personal opinion, if I am as fimiliar with Joss' thinking and writing style as I think I am, is that he was intending to build a sub-plot based on a wider conspiracy involving the Tams, and perhaps parents of other "eligible" Alliance children. There are clues to this buried in the screenplays, but I find the most support for my theory in the episode "Safe", which I will detail as this thread evolves.

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I hadn't thought of that, since there's plenty of yuppie sheeple who BELIEVE they're members of The Elite. Easy to project that myth onto The Tams.

Joss clearly based River upon Cathy O'Brien and her daughter Kelly, the Real World victims of govt mind control by the most heinous of tortures, to manufacture multiple personality disorder. So Joss was very much aware that parents sell their kids into govt mind-control programs.

Cathy O'Brien
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=cathy+o'brien

Unabomber Ted Kaczynski was admittedly signed over by his parents into a govt brainwash/psychiatric program, "to improve his academic performance". They were more likely willing dupes who failed to monitor their son's torture by CIA LSD.
www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Unabomber+Ted+Kazinski+brother+
brainwash+program&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=

Cathy's parents were themselves multigenerational incest victims who became perpetrators, with MPD intentionally induced by torture from their parents and mobster associates.

Cathy's parents were extorted to put their kids into the govt program, after her dad was busted sending her child porn in the mail. Congressman, un-elected "president", JFK Warren Commission coverup member and pedophile Leslie Lynch King Jr* personally recruited her parents into the govt program, under threat of going to prison.

Cathy was brainwashed, tortured, raped, drugged, threatened, extorted, forced to watch murders, to keep her own daughter in the CIA's MKULTRA "Project Monarch" rapeslave program. When Cathy broke out of the slavecamps, the courts took over to keep her little daughter in the govt's pedophile sexslave brainwash program, "for reasons of national security".

Before World War 2, the Nazis began to recruit these family MPD experts, to research and discover how to manufacture controllable assassins and sexslaves with 100% amnesia.

In Project Paperclip, these same Nazis were recruited by the OSS/CIA/Pentagon/NASA after WW2, to bring their torture methods to USA with immunity from prosecution.

So perhaps the Tam parents were themselves slaves of the Alliance brainwash program, with amnesia of their own tortures? Good fanfic...

Guess who was born in the heart of the Franklin Coverup?
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=franklin+cover
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Leslie Lynch King, Jr in a dress (later known as Gerald R. Ford) in 1916

* Gerald Rudolph Ford, Jr. (born Leslie Lynch King, Jr.; July 14, 1913 – December 26, 2006) was the 38th President of the United States, serving from 1974 to 1977, and the 40th Vice President of the United States serving from 1973 to 1974.

Ford was born Leslie Lynch King, Jr., on July 14, 1913, at 3202 Woolworth Avenue in Omaha, Nebraska, where his parents lived with his paternal grandparents. His father was Leslie Lynch King, Sr., a wool trader and son of prominent banker Charles Henry King and Martha King. His mother was the former Dorothy Ayer Gardner. Dorothy separated from King Sr. just sixteen days after her son's birth. She took her son with her to the Oak Park, Illinois home of her sister Tannisse and her husband, Clarence Haskins James. From there she moved to the home of her parents, Levi Addison Gardner an

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