reavers

POSTED BY: est120
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WITLESSCHUM

Friday, July 30, 2004 2:29 PM

Howdy, first time caller,
My theory is that any decision on a Reaver ship can break out into a battle. (like the Orcs in "the Two Towers") I mean if they're too savage to not rape, eat and wear you, they probably can't be made to do anything, but by force.

So, those who wanted to go wherever they were going vs. those who wanted to chase Serenity tore each other's arms off until the side that said chase Serenity wins out.

Mal suggests they're not hugely rational when he says, if we run they'll chase us, it's their way.

Or if they're a bit more rational than that, they headed where they were going, found the target was too heavily defended or not there and followed back along Serenity's course.

I think they survived for the above mentioned reasons, but I don't think they attacked Whitefall.

DIXIEFLATLINE

Friday, July 30, 2004 3:26 PM

On the Reavers' capacity for rational decision-making: I think one of the most telling hints at this is in "Bushwhacked". If you look at the life-signs monitor in the Alliance cruiser's sickbay while they're trying to treat the proto-Reaver, you see it flashing a red "ABNORMAL" indicator as he goes into convulsions. Then he pops his scalpel out of his sleeve and starts slashing, and as blood splashes across the monitor, we see it change to a green "NORMAL".

So for whatever reason (and ain't there just a whole bunch of speculation about that), the Reavers seem to respond to stress with a physiological need to kill. Whatever consensus they reach is going to be heavily based on who's not bleeding to death on the floor at the end of the discussion...

EST120

Friday, July 30, 2004 6:56 PM

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Originally posted by witlesschum:
Mal suggests they're not hugely rational when he says, if we run they'll chase us, it's their way.

Or if they're a bit more rational than that, they headed where they were going, found the target was too heavily defended or not there and followed back along Serenity's course.

okay, then here is another thought. wash says that the reavers ship is running "without core containment". which he terms "suicide". with that in mind, it seems that the reavers do not fear death and ships running without core containment possibly break down or maybe even explode with some regularity. with this in mind, does anyone think that the reavers are really "rational"?

"i can't comprehend the ways that i miss you, they come to light in my mistakes."
-neko case

THEREALME

Saturday, July 31, 2004 12:45 AM

Well, I kinda doubt that the Reavers ran without core containment just to prove how tough they were. Probably, without the extra weight of shielding, their ship had a much better acceleration than it would otherwise have.

The Real Me

EST120

Saturday, July 31, 2004 1:17 AM

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Originally posted by TheRealMe:
Well, I kinda doubt that the Reavers ran without core containment just to prove how tough they were. Probably, without the extra weight of shielding, their ship had a much better acceleration than it would otherwise have.

The Real Me

actually, i thought it would be more of "they do not know any better" kind of thing.

"i can't comprehend the ways that i miss you, they come to light in my mistakes."
-neko case

VETERAN

Saturday, July 31, 2004 5:11 AM

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Originally posted by shoeFly:
If memory serves I think Lawerence was dead from a gun shot to the head by Mal. ....

...Ooo, they have the internet on computers now. - H.J. Simpson

I thought he winged him in the shoulder.

Love the Homer quote.

HARDWARE

Saturday, July 31, 2004 9:46 AM

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Originally posted by TheRealMe:
Well, I kinda doubt that the Reavers ran without core containment just to prove how tough they were. Probably, without the extra weight of shielding, their ship had a much better acceleration than it would otherwise have.

The Real Me

You know at first I thought Wash's comment also meant some sort of radiation shielding. It could also mean they have no way to stop a critical buildup in their power plant. Perhaps running without core containment allows them to get more power out of a power plant of a given size? The downside being that if something happens the engine doesn't shut down gracefully, but goes ker-blooie in a big and spectacular way.

The more I get to know people the more I like my dogs.

CALHOUN

Saturday, July 31, 2004 11:08 AM

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est120 wrote:
Wednesday, July 28, 2004 12:43
i was watching serenity today and i had a thought about the reavers. obviously, the reaver ship is quite a bit larger than serenity. thus, it seems there are probably a good number of reavers on the ship. mal states that he thinks it is "a raiding party". anyway, my question is, does it seem odd that the reavers would go to so much trouble to to capture one small ship? of course, if you follow the "cattle for the slaughter" philosophy, maybe it kind of makes sense since one "cow" probably feeds more than one individual. still, do people think the reavers would have attacked whitefall after capturing serenity? if not, what do people think the reavers did after serenity escaped?

I always assumed it entirely possible/probable the reavers might hit Whitefall. Mals earlier statement "Rubics Dead - His town got hit by reavers, burned it right down" I believe lends credance to that assumption.

THEREALME

Saturday, July 31, 2004 3:13 PM

And maybe a TOWN on Whitefall could get hit by these Reavers. But there could be many towns on Whitefall that survive okay.

The Real Me

PURPLEBELLY

Saturday, July 31, 2004 3:38 PM

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Originally posted by Veteran:
I thought he winged him in the shoulder.

Getting dropped on his head and broiled by the engines probably ruined his day, tho

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