GO-Bag and General Carry
POSTED BY: Wulfenstar
UPDATED: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 03:45
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"And there goes the gun argument again. Well done, Wulf, you got exactly what you set out to get."
Actually I didnt.
I was wondering if anyone else had any other ideas for things to have if the SHTF. I mean I've only got so many pockets so...
I do like the Swiss army knife, better than the Leatherman for sentimental reasons.
But carry on Nicki.
You were saying that guns make crime, and blacks shouldn't be allowed guns or something?
"has nothing to do with gangs, inner-city living, ghettos, or anything like that. More homicides are committed by Blacks ON Blacks than on anyone else. But, you know, they’re Black, that’s the reason.."
I sort of glaze over when you go on a rant like this.
Like how you gloss over what I post.
But please, in a spirit of communication... continue.
"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"
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Where the hell did you get that from what I wrote? I was being fascetious in responding to your assumption that there was a connection between those cities' stricter gun laws and their higher crime rate. It's not a valid connection, and I was citing some of the reasons why...like those are big cities, which are more prone to gangs, ghettos, etc. where the value of life is different than it is in more rural areas. Get it? Has no connection to "guns make crime" or who should be allowed guns. Your mind works in strange ways, it "reads" things differently than they are written.
You were saying that guns make crime, and blacks shouldn't be allowed guns or something?
Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off 
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Wallet, keys, Carmex, phone, iPod, hat.
Any one of them can be a weapon. Or if you approach me with a gun and get close, I'll just use yours. ;)
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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
"I'm not comfortable with people carrying guns at all, but if I visit your neck of the woods, I'll psyche myself up to it."
Magons,
Im not comfortable with people telling me that I should forfeit my families safety on the whims of spoiled, over-privaledged, bitches and assholes living behind guilded walls.
Fuck that. Like I should EVER sacrifice the safety of me and mine so some spoiled people can feel "more comfortable"?
Never in this life.
Show me where I have ever called for any changes to your laws.
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Story..." Sometimes a chapstick."
LOL. yeah okay Kwicko....you cock suckers are hilarious....Well, it's true
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http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bs-ed-smith-20110120,0,7
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Now back to the original question. Who here has GO/Bug Out Bags? What do you keep in them?
Not saying the zombies are going to rise tomorrow, but... :)
"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"
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Allow me to note for the record that getting into a debate on statistics is no more useful here than it is concerning climate, and for the same reasons, one of which is *both* "sides" have blown any credibility with constant obfuscation, distortion and omissions bordering on outright lies.
That said, Niki, you are aware the folks handing out the statistics you posted consider a perp shot dead in the commission of a violent crime to be a "victim of gun violence" and add them to the tally, something which bothers me almost as much as Lott admitting he more or less pulled defensive gun use numbers out of his ass....
Like they say, lies, damn lies, and statistics.
I *will* say that having a reputation around here is handy, I was on my way back from the store and this wayne county cop (one I happen to actually know) did a hard (and illegal) U-turn and rolled up on a homeless guy, prolly bent on hassling him, and then spots ME glaring at him from my car on the other side, and simply drives off...
While there's something to be said for being armed as a check against tyranny, in the small scale of things, being a vicious opponent of it can be enough - he *knew* I woulda hauled out a camera or maybe even pulled over and watched.
Oh, and Magons ?
Instead of "nerving yourself up" to do something you do not at all feel comfortable with, I reccommend you simply buddy up with a trustworthy yank who does carry - whether to carry or not is a personal choice, and up to the individual, one I respect, so long as my choice is respected and not infringed or called upon to BE infringed because of what I *might* do, cause that is an ugly, ugly road to travel.
Besides which, allies trump bullets by a large margin, armed or not.
And finally, while I do realize that it's sooo much easier to ignore me completely and argue with idiot-boy cause he's a friggin bonehead with ego issues and tends to run his mouth with his brain stuck in neutral, thus making him a perfect strawman - lemme point out that in such a case it renders even the notion of adding my input kinda...
Pointless.
-Frem
I do not serve the Blind God.
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Any one of them can be a weapon. Or if you approach me with a gun and get close, I'll just use yours. ;)
Funniest thing I've seen posted on this board in a while. Not that I'm looking to mug anyone, but if you try to use my gun on me Kwicko you're going to have to hit me with it. It's going to be empty by the time you get it.
The more I get to know people the more I like my dogs.
...and he that has no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. Luke 22:36
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Originally posted by Hardware:Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Any one of them can be a weapon. Or if you approach me with a gun and get close, I'll just use yours. ;)
Funniest thing I've seen posted on this board in a while. Not that I'm looking to mug anyone, but if you try to use my gun on me Kwicko you're going to have to hit me with it. It's going to be empty by the time you get it.
Now THAT is funny. As I said, anything can be a weapon. Even your empty gun, once you've wasted all your ammo.
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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:Quote:
Originally posted by Hardware:
12 Americans are killed every day in crimes committed by illegal aliens. Does this count?
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=39031
So what you are saying is that it would be better to be killed by an American citizen?
The linked article commented that in the same period less US servicemen were being killed in Iraq. Meaning the US was more dangerous to US citizens than Iraq.
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Ever been a victim of crime? I've been carjacked. Does that make me "paranoid" or once burned, twice shy?Quote:
Somewhere where there is regaular carjacking would fit my definition of crime being terribly out of control. I can think of some parts of the world where I would seriously think of taking a weapon if I had to go there - Johanasburg is one of them - notorious for carjacking and murder and rape is kind of a hobby for some.
And in answer to your question, yes I have been a victim of crime. I've been burgarled (3 X)
But burglary occurs when you are out of the house or not actually confronting the burglar. Hardly the same sort of crime when someone who wants your wallet and car sticks a gun in your face, is it?
Kind of disingenuous of you to compare your burglaries with a violent crime where deadly force is being used, isn't it?
As far as regularity of crime is concerned, criminals don't make appointments. When they start, I will stop carrying.
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Actually, I'm a fat old man who has had his share of scuffling on the ground with someone, doesn't want any more holes poked in my precious anatomy and is impatient with idiots who want what does not belong to them.
You see that's where I lose sympathy a bit with some of the gun carrying stuff. If you are doing it to protect your life because you live in the war zone, fair enough. If you are doing it because someone might nick your wallet, hmmm. Another solution is not to carry anything valuable with you. I walk around with $50 cash max. Anybody wants to mug me, they can have my wallet. I'd rather hand it over and cancel my credit cards than get into a deadly gun fight.
You do realize that someone using a knife or gun to mug you is already committing assault with a deadly weapon, right? That is a felony in every jurisdiction I'm aware of. Using of deadly force in the commission of a crime makes defense from that crime acceptable use of deadly force.
I'm not carrying because someone might take my belongings. I'm carrying because someone might take my life. We Americans don't live in old blimey. We don't hand over our property just because someone demands it of us. We'd better see a credible threat that makes the property not worth keeping in light of that threat. In the presence of that threat I have options with a gun, without one I have no options but surrender and hope that they don't harm or kill me.
The more I get to know people the more I like my dogs.
...and he that has no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. Luke 22:36
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