Kevin Smith's Red State

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UPDATED: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 04:10
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OPTIMUS1998

Friday, January 14, 2011 3:02 AM

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originally posted by optimus1998:
saw cop out, Liked it, not enough to have paid to see it, but enough to see it again, or buy it once it hits the $5 rack.

moose:
never claimed it was great, or fantastic cinema, or even award (ANY AWARD) Caliber.

just said i liked it. which is a very subjective term.
hell, i liked "Freddy got fingered", but I'm not dense enough to call it a great film...

yes. kevin maybe could have done more. But when the bulk of your directorial career are works that you yourself have written... you just might not want to stomp all over some other screen writer's work, just cuz you see the project going a different way.

and sometimes you just need a paycheck.

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PRETTYXPISTOL

Friday, January 14, 2011 3:07 AM

Only saw Dogma but he just rubs me the wrong way.

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WISHIMAY

Friday, January 14, 2011 3:18 AM

Wishi shakes head, shrugs and looks perplexed (and slightly worried), but ultmately holds up a movie ticket and gives a "let's go, I guess" toss of the head...

MOOSE

Friday, January 14, 2011 5:08 AM

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Originally posted by optimus1998:
But when the bulk of your directorial career are works that you yourself have written... you just might not want to stomp all over some other screen writer's work, just cuz you see the project going a different way.

and sometimes you just need a paycheck.

Very good points. I can see him not wanting to shit on someone's script since he's always been in their shoes.

I don't know, I might give it another shot down the road just because I am a fan...but probably not.

Another thing that pisses me off is that the DVD release and the BluRay rental didn't have Smith's usual extras...it's only on the BluRay for purchase edition. His commentary is a good percentage of the fun of the DVDs.

OPTIMUS1998

Tuesday, January 18, 2011 10:44 PM

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Originally posted by Moose:
Quote:
Originally posted by optimus1998:
But when the bulk of your directorial career are works that you yourself have written... you just might not want to stomp all over some other screen writer's work, just cuz you see the project going a different way.

and sometimes you just need a paycheck.

Very good points. I can see him not wanting to shit on someone's script since he's always been in their shoes.

I don't know, I might give it another shot down the road just because I am a fan...but probably not.

Another thing that pisses me off is that the DVD release and the BluRay rental didn't have Smith's usual extras...it's only on the BluRay for purchase edition. His commentary is a good percentage of the fun of the DVDs.

hey moose:
Not to beat a dead horse here, but seriously, find a copy of the latest q&a "too fat for 40"
2 hrs. answers ONE question:
What was it like to direct Bruce Willis?
turns that into a 2 hr monolouge.
short version?: You can't. you give him suggestions, the whole movie, and he does what he wants to do.

if you're a bit torrenter, here's a link to it @ demonoid: http://www.demonoid.me/files/details/2511440/6444595/

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MOOSE

Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:24 PM

Hell, I didn't even know he had a new Q&A out...
Thanks! I enjoy those even more than his movies!

STORYMARK

Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:48 PM

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Originally posted by lwaves:
I'm a big fan of Kevin Smith. I even think Jersey Girl is okay but Cop Out looks really bad so I haven't got around to watching it.

Don't bother, it's terrible.

He didn't write it, anyway, so it has none of his usual touches. Which leaves the move resting solely on his abilities as a visual filmmaker.... which is his weakest area.

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THESOMNAMBULIST

Wednesday, January 19, 2011 12:07 AM

Clerks is his best work.

He's a bit repetitive with his themes, but he's generally fun. Though I found Chasing Amy awkward - at least to me the actors looked awkward with it - but maybe that's just my take.

I think he's a great orator. If you can, have a listen to his story about how he almost got to write the script for Superman. It's absolutely hilarious and he tells it really well. I'm sure it's out there in youtubeland somewheres....

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PHOENIXROSE

Wednesday, January 19, 2011 4:10 AM

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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
Clerks is his best work.

Nope. Dogma.

I do not need the written code of a spiritual belief to act like a decent human being.

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