Firefly gun safety question

POSTED BY: Bytemite
UPDATED: Saturday, January 22, 2011 04:17
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BYTEMITE

Tuesday, January 18, 2011 1:26 AM

Hahahahaha, awesome.

Joss, I love you...r attention to detail.

BYTEMITE

Tuesday, January 18, 2011 3:08 AM

Oh hey

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One of these would be the ankle holster. I have seen ankle holsters for .380 autos and .38 snubby revolvers, but I surely would not like to carry so heavy a gun that way. However, an ankle holster will work for the deep concealment pistols. They are light enough and small enough not to be too obtrusive. Cowboy boots or similar footwear help to conceal an ankle holster.

yeeeeeee~!

REDFEATHER1

Tuesday, January 18, 2011 8:27 AM

from experience tucking a gun at your back in your waist band may not be the most comfortable thing but its not too bad if your just going to say go check on someone real fast and cant wear a full rig. tho i have a fed nice skeleton rigs that go on my belt at the back and it hold the firearm outside of the pants however i prefer to wear them at my side so they are more comfortable sitting down.
as for in the boot bad idea unless you have an ankle holster, really uncomfortable and ankles actually can trigger if you step just right (not likely but it can happen) and if you just drop one down your boot, if your sitting not too bad but if your walking or running around, it moves and is hard to get to in an emergency. now with an ankle rig still hard to get to in a boot BUT not was noticeable or uncomfortable i wear mine occasionally when i can not wear one at my waist if i have need to i have seen other people or officers put a hideaway in their boot and end p limping after 2 or 3 steps and thinking better of it (i am not law enforcement, just dont want anyone thinking i am saying i am, but i have been a P.I. and occasionally am an armed PPO)
Also mals rig is slung low which would be fairly comfortable sitting down and he would not have to remove his pistol while sitting. I am in a wild west shootout group that wears similar rigs and you can ride horses in them and you can sit in a chair with em.
as for would a man like mal have a gun on him at all times. I do not think i have ever seen my father without a firearm on him in my life when he was on the job weather he was working or not (prob not even since then) people that live that life style tend to stay armed at all costs in some way.

REDFEATHER1

Tuesday, January 18, 2011 8:28 AM

I wear a 38 in my ankle holster and it works ok and once you get used to wearing it no one is the wiser. When i wear it with my boots its mighty hidden away just harder to get to lol

BYTEMITE

Tuesday, January 18, 2011 3:16 PM

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from experience tucking a gun at your back in your waist band may not be the most comfortable thing but its not too bad if your just going to say go check on someone real fast and cant wear a full rig. tho i have a fed nice skeleton rigs that go on my belt at the back and it hold the firearm outside of the pants however i prefer to wear them at my side so they are more comfortable sitting down.

Heh, yeah, and probably a much, much better option than the front of the waistband, am I right?

I've heard stories, and granted, most of these are a problem of too baggy pants coupled with gun falling loose from the waistband and trying to grab it. But I hear plenty of guys have had misfires and their genetic legacy is gonna end with them.

This isn't a problem with Mal I'd think as he doesn't wear baggy, so in a pinch it'd work for him, but from most of the responses here in this thread it sounds like people expect Mal to be prepared in advance for any kind of danger that comes up. So, holsters.

With one exception: whenever he's on Serenity, is intending to stay for a while, isn't expecting trouble, and they don't have unfamiliar passengers that might get unruly, then he goes unarmed. It seems like to me that he considers Serenity a safe zone, which is why being attacked on Serenity (by Jubal Early, by Saffron, both times unarmed) takes him by surprise so much.

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as for in the boot bad idea unless you have an ankle holster, really uncomfortable and ankles actually can trigger if you step just right (not likely but it can happen) and if you just drop one down your boot, if your sitting not too bad but if your walking or running around, it moves and is hard to get to in an emergency. now with an ankle rig still hard to get to in a boot BUT not was noticeable or uncomfortable i wear mine occasionally when i can not wear one at my waist if i have need to i have seen other people or officers put a hideaway in their boot and end p limping after 2 or 3 steps and thinking better of it

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I wear a 38 in my ankle holster and it works ok and once you get used to wearing it no one is the wiser. When i wear it with my boots its mighty hidden away just harder to get to lol

Yeah, I decided to go with an ankle holster in the boot. That Colt Magnum would need SOME kind of holster judging by what Frem says, and if Mal HAS it, I have trouble imagining he doesn't wear it or use it. Jayne may keep a whole bunch of guns as a trophy collection, but for Mal guns are purely a matter of safety and practicality.

It's be interesting (and hilarious) though to see Mal, Zoe, and Jayne have to go through security and each of them do an extended disarm.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ExtendedDisarming

I bet on some worlds security recognizes them on sight and just doesn't even bother.

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Also mals rig is slung low which would be fairly comfortable sitting down and he would not have to remove his pistol while sitting.

Also good to know. I guess you'd just get used to the weight on your side like that.

CYBERSNARK

Tuesday, January 18, 2011 3:27 PM

The kind of holster Mal (and Han Solo) wears is designed for the quick-draw; it keeps the gun right at hand-level, so he doesn't have to waste time reaching for it.

The old Brian Daley Han Solo novels went into greater detail on how to customize it; Han had filed off the forward sight on his gun (which is why he used an external scope instead) so it wouldn't snag. He had also trimmed down the front edge of the holster itself, so the gun would clear it faster.

Not saying Mal would've done the same, but I could definitely see the two of them trading notes.

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
I've heard stories, and granted, most of these are a problem of too baggy pants coupled with gun falling loose from the waistband and trying to grab it. But I hear plenty of guys have had misfires and their genetic legacy is gonna end with them.

As it should be, one thinks. Some people shouldn't get to reproduce.

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FREMDFIRMA

Tuesday, January 18, 2011 6:41 PM

Actually, you more than "get used to" the weight, after long enough you actually become pyschologically disconcerted if it's NOT there - especially folk who've lived rough lives as Mal has, who's very life has often depended on having it handy, to NOT be strapped puts them in a very uncomfortable mental place.

How uncomfortable, you ask - well as a mental experiment, if you feel particularly psychologically masochistic, lose the boxers and go commando, then go grocery shopping.
THAT uncomfortable, downright paranoia-inspiring.

So if yer gonna write about it, don't forget that lacking the mental bulwark of a trusted/favored piece is gonna have a huge pyschological impact, only slightly lessened by having a piece at all.

Oh, and regarding Extended Disarming (or as we call it, the Mongolian Strip Tease) I think Jayne would be the most fun for that one, Zoe is more of a hands-on kinda girl, and Mal just has a couple, but Jayne, especially if he knew it was coming, would wanna show off and lug in a *ridiculous* amount of hardware....

Best example I've seen of this would be Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome, about 6-7 minutes in, and he STILL manages to slip a knife through, hidden in plain sight.

-Frem

REDFEATHER1

Tuesday, January 18, 2011 8:36 PM

Frem is dead right on that one, when you wear a side arm or a knife as part of your daily dress you get so used to it that it feels alien and naked to not have it. like a hat for some or a purse for others, and even like glasses for those that need wear them
I need to re-watch the show back to back (do that every so often like we all do) but i think mal has his side arm on him most times
yeah he might hang his on a peg when he comes in, (case in point in the expendables stallone and statham hang their gun belts on pegs behind them in the airplane) but for the most part especially if they are in port or anytime there MIGHT be trouble i think mal is the type to go armed to the bathroom even lol.

REDFEATHER1

Tuesday, January 18, 2011 8:38 PM

There is also the logic that you might have someone (i have used this in stories before) have an obvious weapon or two that they take on the pat down so that they let you go with a minor search and you can sneak in one secreted elsewhere

REDFEATHER1

Tuesday, January 18, 2011 8:40 PM

There is also the logic that you might have someone (i have used this in stories before) have an obvious weapon or two that they take on the pat down so that they let you go with a minor search and you can sneak in one secreted elsewhere

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