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I watched True Grit

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Thursday, January 6, 2011 12:08 PM

Quantrill was pro-Confederate, but was considered a renegade guerilla rather than an official part of the Confederate military. If he and his men had only attacked Union military convoys and depots his reputation would not be as negative as it was, but they did raid several towns and civilians were killed.


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Thursday, January 6, 2011 8:44 PM

I myself was trying to figure out why LeBoeuf was calling Rooster a marauder, and I figured it was something like that.

As for Matt Damon playing LeBoeuf, I kinda thought it was set up in the story that he was just a cocky dandy with not as much experience as he was claiming and not overly believable as a Texas Ranger. And in that sense, pretty boy Damon is actually spot on for the role.

Two: the first Rooster anecdote you quoted actually made it into this version.

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Thursday, January 6, 2011 9:26 PM

There are two opinions about Quantrill:
"Quantrill's actions remain controversial to this day. Some historians view him as an opportunistic, bloodthirsty outlaw; James M. McPherson, one of America's most prominent experts on the Civil War today, calls him and Anderson "pathological killers" who "murdered and burned out Missouri Unionists." Others, such as Missouri biographer Paul R. Petersen, continue to regard him as a daring horse soldier and a local folk hero. Some of Quantrill's celebrity later rubbed off on other ex-Raiders – Jesse and Frank James, and Cole and Jim Younger – who went on after the war to apply Quantrill's hit-and-run tactics to bank and train robbery." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Quantrill

The day he died, Rooster was still traveling with Frank James and Cole Younger from Rooster's days with Quantrill's Raiders. There will be controversy about Mal Reynolds long after he is dead.

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity", where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, January 7, 2011 1:27 AM

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Originally posted by ecgordon:
Quantrill was pro-Confederate, but was considered a renegade guerilla rather than an official part of the Confederate military. If he and his men had only attacked Union military convoys and depots his reputation would not be as negative as it was, but they did raid several towns and civilians were killed.



Gee, sounds like the pro-Union Jayhawkers and their depredations against their Confederate sympathizing neighbors.

The guerilla units of Missouri didn't create themselves out of nothing. There are reasons why they came to be and why they did the things they did. It might not pass moral muster today but it fit with their times.

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Friday, January 7, 2011 1:35 AM

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
I myself was trying to figure out why LeBoeuf was calling Rooster a marauder, and I figured it was something like that...



To see the other side of the story do searches on "Jayhawkers" and "Redlegs".

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Friday, January 7, 2011 1:38 AM

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Originally posted by two:
There are two opinions about Quantrill:
"Quantrill's actions remain controversial to this day...



As I suggested to someone else, do searches on "Jayhawkers" and "Redlegs."

It seems clear to me that the ugliness was mutual between Northern and Southern sympathizers.

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Saturday, January 8, 2011 5:31 AM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:
Just got back from seeing this. Words can't express my admiration for this movie. Just when I'm giving up on Hollywood movies, and think a well crafted film is harder to find than a needle in a haystack, I watch this gem, and all is forgiven. Seriously, I thought That the Coen brothers would entertain me for a couple hours but I had no Idea what a great film this was going to turn out to be. Hands down the best Western I have seen, and now one of my favorite movies of all time.

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I'll get in this line. I just finished watching True Grit and it was fantastic. The acting, the pace, the character development were all extraordinary. The best movie I have seen in a long long time. The girl that plays Maddie Ross has to get an oscar. I will say when we first meet Rooster he comes off as a bit annoying but somehow I got used to Bridges voice....It actually made the movie for me by the end...

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