reavers

POSTED BY: est120
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EST120

Wednesday, July 28, 2004 10:43 PM

i was watching serenity today and i had a thought about the reavers. obviously, the reaver ship is quite a bit larger than serenity. thus, it seems there are probably a good number of reavers on the ship. mal states that he thinks it is "a raiding party". anyway, my question is, does it seem odd that the reavers would go to so much trouble to to capture one small ship? of course, if you follow the "cattle for the slaughter" philosophy, maybe it kind of makes sense since one "cow" probably feeds more than one individual. still, do people think the reavers would have attacked whitefall after capturing serenity? if not, what do people think the reavers did after serenity escaped?

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ECGORDON

Wednesday, July 28, 2004 10:59 PM

If the Reaver population is growing, more ships would be essential for them, so capturing Serenity might have meant as much to them as feeding off the people inside.

Several months back someone else speculated about the Reavers ransacking Whitefall after Serenity escapes. Speculation is nice, but when you've got no info to go on, it's anybody's guess.

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BROWNCOAT1

Thursday, July 29, 2004 2:01 PM

I do not think the Reavers hit Whitefall after Serenity & crew made their escape. If the Reavers had hit Whitefall it seems that news of the attack would have gotten around by the end of the series and it would have been mentioned.

Also, Mal guessed by the size of the ship that it was a Reaver raiding party. What Mal based his information on I have no idea. I am thinking that a raiding party would be hard pressed to contend w/ Patience and her hired guns. Patience and her band seem pretty well organized and armed, and according to the episode we are told that Patience has a large enough power base and enough influence to all but run Whitefall.

On the other hand, after the run in w/ Mal, some of Patience's boys are shot up, dead, or run off and Patience herself was left trapped under a dead horse. The Reavers could have pulled off a small raid and left before Patience was able to organize any sort of resistance. Still, seems something would have been mentioned about it if it happened. It would have made a great plot later in the series if Patience was after Mal for revenge because the Reavers he eluded landed on her moon and raided the community.

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VMAN

Thursday, July 29, 2004 6:07 PM

Regarding the Reavers - when they come in to play in an episode - I feel the same feeling of dread I feel when the Borg make an appearance on Star Trek. Perhaps it's because both groups essentialy consume those they have contact with.

THEGREYJEDI

Friday, July 30, 2004 12:16 AM

If memory serves, I think the reaver ship gets all manner of blasted in Serenity when Wash hits full burn to clear the planet.

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ZOE: Now we have a boatful of citizens right on top of our... stolen cargo. That's a fun mix.
MAL: Ain't no way in the 'verse they could find that compartment, even--Even if they were lookin' for it.
ZOE: Why not?
MAL: 'Cause... ?
ZOE: Oh yeah, this is gonna go great.
MAL: If anyone gets nosy, just, you know...shoot 'em.
ZOE: Shoot 'em?
MAL: Politely.

VETERAN

Friday, July 30, 2004 2:16 AM

I always ponder two things regarding this episode:

1) Did they manage to destroy or disable the reaver ship during the full burn?

2) If they didn't destroy the Reavers did the Reavers raid Whitefall, and take "Lawerence" prisoner, or at least torture him a spell?

SHOEFLY

Friday, July 30, 2004 5:09 AM

If memory serves I think Lawerence was dead from a gun shot to the head by Mal. Your talking abot the Fed that was after River and Simon and tried to bribe Jayne? But still, I definately would not put it past the Reavers to use his carcas for all manner of unpleasentness.

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SOUPCATCHER

Friday, July 30, 2004 5:20 AM

One of the things I really liked about this part of the pilot was the way our BDHs handled the Reaver threat. They ran like hell and gave themselves the opportunity to get away. When you're merchants you just don't go up against Reavers. I figured the Reaver ship was not destroyed and probably not even disabled. I'm sure it was a bumpy ride for a while but ... they're Reavers running without core containment and a little turbulence isn't going to do them in. Maybe a few broken bones. Maybe even a few concussions. Maybe even a few Reavers made it onto the main course that night due to injury. But, to me, it was just another subtle note from Joss that these aren't the heroes who save the universe from evil, they're the people who are just trying to live another day. From the point of view of the crew what happened to the Reaver ship was unimportant.

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KALIMEERI

Friday, July 30, 2004 1:59 PM

It was my impression from what Zoe said that the reavers were more interested in taking the ship, which might be one reason they pursued it. The skins, etc. were secondary fun. Maybe the time delay between their first contact was long enough to get hungry, and the two ideas came together.

I think it was also Zoe who suggested that they would never be able to come around in time to follow Serenity, so it's safe to assume that they were probably knocked off course and shaken up, but not destroyed, unless they crash-landed. I just can't see a single reason why they wouldn't stop off on the planet, since they were so close and Serenity was gone. They may also need repairs.

Most likely news of the raid would be dependent on Mal talking to the right information source. Whitefall was pretty far off the beaten track, and the Alliance probably wouldn't feature a reaver attack on Page 1 of the Blue Sun Times, anyway.

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FEMALEJAYNE

Friday, July 30, 2004 2:06 PM

I think the reavers might not have wanted to fight a whole town/plant after just having possibly raided. Probably they were just playing with Serenity. Letting them think they passed because a surprised crew is much easier to take than a crew that's getting ready to fight to the death. Mal probably guess the number of reavers based on how many it would take to opterate a ship that large and still have some folk left to broad in case of attacking another ship.

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