Kaylee's Love Life
POSTED BY: Toadsmoothy
UPDATED: Friday, December 17, 2010 03:38
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Poor Kaylee's got it bad.
"For over a year I ain't had nuthin' between my nethers weren't run on batteries!"
hahaha Ouch!
As her exchange with Wash in "Heart of Gold" indicates, Kaylee is lonely and insecure and, as often happens, all that gets focused on sex. She mostly wants someone, Wash or Simon or someone to tell her she's pretty...and she's not embarrassed to ask for it.
Am I the only one who thinks Simon is wrong for her?
It's been my experience that opposites do attract and can produce some impressive sparks but, over the long run, compatibility makes for the sound relationship. Simon and Kaylee have nothing in common. Their backgrounds, interests, socio-economic status, their future goals, all are totally different. Simon wants off that ship, to return to his former life. Can you picture Kaylee in Simon's world? She would be miserable, as out of place as at the ball in Shindig. Eventually she would be an embarrassment, perhaps even a hinderance to him and he would regret it. The best one can hope for there is a hot fling (as indicated in the BDM) and they go their separate ways with some nice memories.
I am not entirely alone in this. Talking about another series, where her character has to choose between two men, one who promises hot sex and the other with whom she is more compatible, Jewel said she would choose the less sexy but more compatible guy.
Kaylee had more in common with the grease-monkey she was doing in the engine room. I mean, between the hot sex two people need something to talk about, right?...like grav-boots and such.
If Wash hadn't been married I kinda like him and Kaylee together. After all, he said he would take her "in a manly fashion" because he found her pretty. Their personalities, status and interests (the ship) are far more compatible. There is something balanced and comfortable in the idea of him in the bridge and her in the engine room. And I don't think him and Zoe were a great match. Love certainly and sparks but not much compatibility. Besides, she would always be joined at the hip with Mal.
I kinda like Kaylee and Jayne together. I know, that thought might turn some stomachs but I think Jayne cares about her. He kept watch as she was being operated on. He wanted to kill the man who shot her. Thats more concern than he showed any other woman. Sure he teases her, like one might do with a sister, but he doesn't mean any harm. I think she would be good for him, tame him as it were. And he wouldn't be the first wild lummox kept in check by a wife. Besides, he would go down protecting her. I like that idea.
If Jayne had been in that engine room with Jubal Early, Jayne would have torn him limb from limb.
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Seems to me that Jayne had ample time and opportunity to make his move on Kaylee long before Simon came on board. Must have been many long and lonely nights for both of them, alone in their bunks, but apparently nothing ever happened....or maybe it did happen a long time ago and we are never told about it. Jane sure seemed desperately concerned when Kaylee got shot in the Pilot, but the reason for that emotional display is never revealed.
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Am I the only one who thinks Simon is wrong for her?
I think Simon might be able to help Kaylee validate her sense of self-worth, since she doesn't appear to have the ability yet to do that on her own for whatever reason.
Other than that, I have no particular opinion on the ship. I'm mostly a Mal/Inara shipper... which is why, you can imagine, I was so determined in our debate in the Gilded Cage thread. But, yeah, I did get a sense of you being a Mal/Nandi shipper there, which is consistent with your statements here.
I can't say I'm surprised, but I can be civil, see? :) We can all coexist around here.
One thing I'll say about the relationships, if you trade a canon Core x Rim for a Rim x Rim relationship, you have to be careful how you do it. If you're not careful, while a belief in having a similar background = stability is a perfectly fine and common sense approach, it can raise certain unfortunate implications about classism. The vague hints of Victorian England we get from some of the upper crust in Firefly makes this a little bit more pronounced.
Which, because I hate classism and other artificial wealth related social hierarchy nonsense, I kinda personally cheer for the opposite and unlikely couples, you know, to break glass ceilings and such. Plus the bickering is fascinating.
I actually toyed a little bit with putting some past Jayne x Kaylee in a fanfiction, but I changed it after people pointed out some inconsistencies to me. But I have nothing against Jayne x Kaylee, and nothing against Mal x Nandi.
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Seems to me that Jayne had ample time and opportunity to make his move on Kaylee long before Simon came on board...
Maybe he just needed a little encouragement in that direction. Some guys are kinda slow upstairs, especially Jayne! haha The one thing Simon has is a modicum of intelligence, even though he doesn't "know how to talk to girls." But, as Inara pointed out, Simon doesn't know how to talk to anyone. I think the stick up his pigou runs right up his spine and is lodged in his brain. The only women Jayne is used to are whores. He's probably never had a girlfriend before. But, we know he loves his mother, and that's a start. I'd like to see him introduce Kaylee to his Mom some day. I'd bet they would get along famously. I think Jayne's a diamond in the rough...OK, VERY rough, but I think he might be worth the effort.
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Originally posted by Bytemite:
I did get a sense of you being a Mal/Nandi shipper there, which is consistent with your statements here.
Well, I was in a marriage with someone very opposite to me. We attracted like magnets. There was love and massive fireworks but we fought constantly. Eventually we just wore each other out and divorced amicably. Several years later I found a woman with whom I have much in common, personality, background, interests etc. We've been together 18 years and seldom argue. So, I choose comfort over sparks in relationship matters.
Come to think on it, my wife reminds me a lot of Kaylee and my ex-wife reminds me of Inara. Interesting.
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My parents argue every day and my dad's a relentless tease. They have nothing in common, they don't even really share similar interests, they aggravate each other constantly over little things, but they've been together 30 years.
Different strokes. *shrug*
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Originally posted by Bytemite:
I think Simon might be able to help Kaylee validate her sense of self-worth, since she doesn't appear to have the ability yet to do that on her own for whatever reason.
I hate to say it but I think I have to disagree here. Big surprise huh. haha
Kaylee's life was that ship and it was repeatedly made abundantly clear he had no respect for it. As she said to his face: "If you don't think much of this life you must not think much of them that choose it." The closest he came to praising her work was during a drunken night in Canton and that was just the mudder's milk talkin'.
Kaylee knows this relationship is hopelessly flawed. When they were alone in the room with the "alien" cow fetus Simon made it clear that the only reason he was interested in her is because she was the only available female in his life just then.
I can't see how any of this is going to help her self esteem. If anything this pretensious ass is making her feel worse about herself day by day. But, as often happens in sexually charged situations, people see the fault lines but charge ahead anyway only to have those faults destroy them later.
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Originally posted by Bytemite:
My parents argue every day and my dad's a relentless tease. They have nothing in common, they don't even really share similar interests, they aggravate each other constantly over little things, but they've been together 30 years.
Different strokes. *shrug*
Yeah, I hear ya. My folks argued every day for over 50 years and died devoted to one another. But, I can't say they or my brother and I were happy about it. It was miserable. We wished they would divorce just to stop the fighting but we knew neither of them could emotionally survive apart. They came from an era when people just didn't divorce but lived their lives in turmoil and misery. Once they came to our house and started bickering at each other and I told them to leave, that we didn't do that in our home. So, I guess I have some strong feelings about it. But, everyone's situation is different. I just respect my wife too much. We have "discussions" but we never snipe at each other.
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I can't see how any of this is going to help her self esteem.
Yeah, I know. The only reason I said what I did is because what I see as the reason Kaylee originally turned her eyes to him: he's a shuai gentleman from the core. Snatching him up probably would be pretty self-affirming for Kaylee... Unfortunately, things don't always turn out like that.
Which is why I've never necessarily thought they were "destined" or "soulmates" or anything. It has some potential MAYBE, but it's equally likely it won't go anywhere.
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But, everyone's situation is different.
Makes sense. If it had been upsetting for me, I'd probably feel the same way you do. But I always just got some entertainment out of it. Heck, I like to stir the pot.
We're a little dysfunctional.
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