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Do we want to be like Mexico?

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Monday, December 6, 2010 11:14 AM

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"The UN approved the US invasion of Iraq" (FALSE)
"The Bush tax cuts increased Federal revenues" (FALSE)
"The economy is one FIRE!" (FALSE)




All true, at the time they were posted, btw.

now?

Economy not on fire.




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, December 6, 2010 7:15 PM

Omigawd, I just caught this one:

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Anyone who a) questions or b) disagrees w/ your points of view, is deemed a fool
From someone who regularly calls anyone who disagrees/questions him a fool, and far worse...
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they need handouts from the Gov't to survive.
I love how that’s keeps being prattled like it’s fact. Consistently. Obviously there is something psychological behind it, but the fact is that America is NOT going downhill because of the number of people who are getting assistance from the government, nor do all of those people feel they “need a handout”. It’s so much more complex than even just that one statement, not to mention that it isn’t the main problem, nor the major problem. But you’ll go on using that as an excuse, it only means you’re part of the problem, not the solution.

Then there’s the fact that the Bush tax cuts did NOT increase the federal reserve...they grew the debt, just as they will do again. They weren’t stimulative; tax cuts are the LEAST stimulative method of decreasing the debt; unemployment insurance is one of the MOST. You speak of facts, yet you haven’t provided a single one for any of YOUR points. To the best of my knowledge, the UN did NOT approve of the invasion of Iraq, but I could be wrong; again, please provide facts. As to the economy being on fire, no, it wasn’t. It was like one of those fake fireplace fires, looking real (if you don’t look too closely), but actually made up of nothing but paper and air. The “fire” doesn’t create any actual heat.

I see the question posed as “Do we want to continue going in that direction?”
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I don't see us trending to be more like Mexico
I see it in that the gap between rich and poor is growing incredibly faster than ever before.
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why are they coming to the States so much?
Because we’re NOT Mexico yet...and never will be, admittedly, it’s the DIRECTION we’re going that I believe is the question.

What’s being missed is that, if we continue to go in the direction we are, and Mexico got its shit together, in a few hundred years, yes, we could be the way they are now and they could be the rich country. It’s happened before. I think Sig put it succinctly in part:
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It's not Mexico's poverty which is the problem. It is their lack of a pathway towards prosperity. Corruption, believe it or not, has a huge negative impact. As does predatory investment and a predatory upper class. The path towards prosperity involves several things: a robust internal market, an infrastructure which makes production more efficient (roads, water, communication, electricity,etc.), an educated population, rewarding production (not simply putting money on a conveyor to the wealthy, but building factories, houses, etc.). Mexico lacks all of those things.



Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off



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Monday, December 6, 2010 7:19 PM

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I don't see us trending to be more like Mexico


I see it in that the gap between rich and poor is growing incredibly faster than ever before.



Of course you see that, because you're brain washed to see exactly that, no matter what.

It was like that in the 80's, some how was ignored in the 90's and now is happening " incredibly faster " now...





The rich continue to make choices which helped make them rich in the first place, while the poor continue to do the same.




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, December 6, 2010 7:34 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:


Of course you see that, because you're brain washed to see exactly that, no matter what.




And can understand things like.... math.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Monday, December 6, 2010 7:35 PM

Yes. Because I'm stoopid if i don't buy into the cockamamie view points being presented here.

GOT IT !


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, December 6, 2010 7:36 PM

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Originally posted by kaneman:


One of the best analogies you've ever seen? Wow you are an asshole.



The truth hurts. But it's okay, Kanie, your hatred will keep you warm at night.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Monday, December 6, 2010 7:37 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Yes. Because I'm stoopid if i don't buy into the cockamamie view points being presented here.

GOT IT !



No, you're stupid for blindly sticking to your ideology in the face of contradictory facts, and then getting belligerent when others dare to actually look at the evidence, rather than just see what they want to see, like you.

And, because you can't even spell "stupid".

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Monday, December 6, 2010 7:53 PM

What FACTS ? All that's been presented here is baseless opinion.

There's a op ed piece on loving one's country, no matter what, which isn't relevant to the topic.

There's a tired old rant by ...well, one who predictably resorts to such things...which again, is off topic.

I've not been 'belligerent' in the least. All I've done is ask for evidence, to which I've been accused of all sorts of things.

You don't see the humor in misspelling 'stupid' ? Really?

Good grief.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, December 6, 2010 7:58 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
What FACTS ? All that's been presented here is baseless opinion.

There's a op ed piece on loving one's country, no matter what, which isn't relevant to the topic.

There's a tired old rant by ...well, one who predictably resorts to such things...which again, is off topic.

I've not been 'belligerent' in the least. All I've done is ask for evidence, to which I've been accused of all sorts of things.

You don't see the humor in misspelling 'stupid' ? Really?

Good grief.



It was a comment on your overall style, boy. And it's funny that you point out that it's all opinion in this thread - and then act as if your opinion somehow is more factual.

And you didn't get the sarcasm in the spelling comment.

THAT makes you really, really stooooopid.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Monday, December 6, 2010 7:59 PM

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blindly sticking to your ideology in the face of contradictory facts, and then getting belligerent when others dare to actually look at the evidence, rather than just see what they want to see, like you.
Gee. AFAF. I don't think that represents stupidity; to me it represents deliberate blindness, and possibly some ignorance of the facts.

The truth is you get far, far more beligerent and personally attacking with those who disagree with you, and only repeat the same points over and over again with nothing to back them up, then rant at others that THEY'VE not backed up their points.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off



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