Do we want to be like Mexico?
POSTED BY: SignyM
UPDATED: Tuesday, August 11, 2026 19:35
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No, it's a lame analogy, but for reasons which are so far above you, that it's not only sad, but not worth my time and effort even trying to explain.
You, as well as all, should have learned what makes the United States special, long ago. Instead , you were filled w/ nonsensical b.s. about 'multiculturalism' and only what this country has done wrong.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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As usual, Rappy's you are wrong and I cant explain why defense
Getting kinda repetitive and sad there buddy. Do you have an articulate thought, or just a hole in your face that noise comes out of?
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Isn't it awesome how he proves our point without even realizing it?
He's not even really worth acknowledging anymore, other than for comedic value.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Originally posted by BlueHandedMenace:
As usual, Rappy's you are wrong and I cant explain why defense
Getting kinda repetitive and sad there buddy. Do you have an articulate thought, or just a hole in your face that noise comes out of?
I'm not wrong, and I'm not your 'buddy'. But I am bored w/ the merry-go-round on the message boards routine.
You falsely attribute a position for me when I've not even stated one.
SOP w/ certain folks on here.
* yawn *
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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Originally posted by Storymark:
Isn't it awesome how he proves our point without even realizing it?
He's not even really worth acknowledging anymore, other than for comedic value.
It's funnier still that YOU think you've proven any thing. It really is.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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Oh, Blue,Quote:
Excellent. Succinctly sums up how it has appeared to me!
The right loves America like a three year old loves their mommy. Everything that mommy does is great, and anybody who doesn't like mommy is wrong!
The left love America like an adult loves their spouse. With a respect for the qualitites, but also an understanding of the faults, and a desire to help the one they love improve, by trying to improve on the faults.
Poor Raptor. You’ve never even noticed that Sig and I are on opposite sides of the spectrum on as many things as we agree on...probably more! That’s amusing...as is the rest, I’m afraid.
JS, good article.Quote:
That’s how I’ve seen it, too. Rarely have I heard anyone self-described as being on the left say “my country, right or wrong”. I wonder how Raptor rationalizes the fact that the left are almost always the ones demonstrating and protesting against things we believe our country is doing wrong? But then, I’m sure he has a rationalization. I believe in
To some of us, it represents the epitome of patriotism. To others, it may represent the worst of knee-jerk, right-wing, so-called, “patriotism.”Quote:
That’s how I believe we “lefties” feel...and for me, it doesn’t even take being “wrong”, just a desire to keep improving it.
if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set rightQuote:
That, to me, epitomizes mostly those on the right. How many times have we heard any protests as being “un-American” and the protesters told to “love it or leave it”? I didn’t hear many describing the Town Hall disruptions as “un-American” or telling those people to “go back where you came from”...perhaps un-American in that they stifled the free speech of everyone there but themselves, but not expanded to the generalization. Me, I’m a 3.
Those who deny any possibility that their country might commit misdeeds or missteps, and who ignore any evidence to the contrary
I agree with Story. Not only that, Story, but he reinforced it immediately:Quote:
The adult equivalent of “Gee, mommy’s wonderful and perfect; all you do is bitch about her and call her wrong!"
You, as well as all, should have learned what makes the United States special, long ago. Instead , you were filled w/ nonsensical b.s. about 'multiculturalism' and only what this country has done wrong.![]()
You know, it’s easy how he comes to his conclusions; it’s not “My country, right or wrong” to people like Raptor, it’s that America IS ALWAYS RIGHT. They may admit to a flaw now and again, but usually have a rationalization as to how it came about or that it’s actually “right” if you look deep enough. Prime example; torture. More often than not, our Republican candidates (and politicians) either approve of it, approve of it “in certain circumstances”, or find rationalizations where it might not be “torture”.
Now THIS IS A GENERALIZATION, there are absolutely exceptions, AND it is as obviously a political “talking point” about the Right just as liberals being “Commie sympathizers” (oh, wait, nowadays it’s “terrorist sympathizers”, isn’t it?), or that Democrats always “want” to raise taxes, but these things usually have some basis in truth. As I see it, right wingers don’t think as much “my country right or wrong” as “my country is always right”. So of COURSE Raptor can’t see otherwise.
It's called "perspective", anti-black-and-white thinking. You know, an RWA mentality. (Here it comes...)
Of COURSE nobody can prove it right or wrong in toto, but unfortunately, Raptor, you just made a couple of really good statements which serve TO prove it right for you.![]()
Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off 
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Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:
Originally posted by Storymark:
Isn't it awesome how he proves our point without even realizing it?
He's not even really worth acknowledging anymore, other than for comedic value.
It's funnier still that YOU think you've proven any thing. It really is.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
*sigh*
I didn't claim to prove anything, dimwit.
I merely commented on how your oh-so-predictable response was very illustrative of the analogy.
And you didn't get it. You didn't get it so damned much, you had to invent a claim from me that I never made.
Awesome. You never fail to amuse.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I'm not wrong, and I'm not your 'buddy'. But I am bored w/ the merry-go-round on the message boards routine.
Says the guy who refuses to discuss anything, or cite anything, and just plays the "you're not worth it" card every single time he cannot form a coherent argument....
Nice.
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You falsely attribute a position for me when I've not even stated one.
No, he made an observation about your very own words.
You, on the other hand, did falsely attribute me with claiming to have proven something, even though I made no such claim...
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SOP w/ certain folks on here.
Yep, especially those with "Raptor" in their name.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Its quite nice-when your words stand on their own merit, and your peers competently refute the public idiocy response-you really have little left to say...
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Originally posted by BlueHandedMenace:
Al Franken had one of the best analogies I've ever seen on how the right and left each "love" America.
The right loves America like a three year old loves their mommy. Everything that mommy does is great, and anybody who doesn't like mommy is wrong!
The left love America like an adult loves their spouse. With a respect for the qualitites, but also an understanding of the faults, and a desire to help the one they love improve, by trying to improve on the faults.
One of the best analogies you've ever seen? Wow you are an asshole. The "left" that wants us all to live off the tit of government is the "spouse"? You are no menace...you are a tool and an idiot....I don't even have a clue in how to correct your stupid thinking....
And, you show your fuck-nuttery by quoting Al Franken....
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