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Korean War?

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Tuesday, November 23, 2010 3:40 PM

Hello,

Did the Koreas just start shooting at each other?

--Anthony



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Tuesday, November 23, 2010 4:07 PM

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

Did the Koreas just start shooting at each other?




If I were a conspiracy theorist-ist I would say we're trying to get the South to provoke the North so we can move our army men into their country and blow it up. Further proof: I did a google maps and NK is not that far out of the way if we bring our guys home.

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Tuesday, November 23, 2010 4:09 PM

Hello,

So you don't think North Korea fired at South Korea?
You think we did it?

I'm not sure I can make that leap.

--Anthony



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Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:03 PM

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

So you don't think North Korea fired at South Korea?
You think we did it?

I'm not sure I can make that leap.



Just wild speculation on my part.

- Both sides are saying the other fired first, so far our media is reporting that the North fired first. BBC News says:

"South Korea says it has returned fire after North Korea fired dozens of artillery shells at one of its border islands, killing two marines.

Pyongyang accused the South of firing first. The Southern military said it had conducted exercises but shelling was directed away from the North."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11818005

Interesting admission that last bit, eh? Makes it sound like the South fired first but with slightly bad aim. Funny how that aim was at NK.

Asking myself what either one has to gain by shooting at the other and I can't imagine a positive scenario. If I broaden the number of players it starts to make sense. Didn't we just find out that NK has an unexpectedly advanced nuclear program?

I wonder if Obama has heard about this yet.

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Tuesday, November 23, 2010 6:06 PM

More from the BBC:

Quote:

North Korea's supreme military command blamed South Korea for the incident.

'The South Korean enemy, despite our repeated warnings, committed reckless military provocations of firing artillery shells into our maritime territory near Yeonpyeong island beginning 1300 (0400 GMT)," the state-run KCNA news agency quoted it as saying.

The North would "continue to make merciless military attacks with no hesitation if the South Korean enemy dares to invade our sea territory by 0.001mm", it warned.

"It is our military's traditional response to quell provocative actions with a merciless thunderbolt."



There is a strong suggestion that this is motivated a lot by the North's internal politics, and the succession of Kim Jong Il.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Tuesday, November 23, 2010 7:03 PM

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"Pyongyang accused the South of firing first. The Southern military said it had conducted exercises but shelling was directed away from the North."



That puts a bit of a different perspective on it, doesn't it?

These kinds of military wargames and exercises seem designed to provoke incidents, as if they're TRYING to get the other guys to shoot back, in order to give them the "justification" to go to war with them.

And, of course, there's always the possibility that the South did indeed fire first, but AWAY from the North, and some hot-headed North Korean field commander, in a fit of panic or rage, decided to fire back. Doesn't necessarily mean the orders came from on high. Anyone with command and control authority over the artillery pieces could likely order them to fire without getting permission from the Dear Leader...

Either way, this has the capability to get real ugly, real fast, if both sides don't step lightly right now.

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Tuesday, November 23, 2010 8:43 PM

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Originally posted by pizmobeach:

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Pyongyang accused the South of firing first. The Southern military said it had conducted exercises but shelling was directed away from the North."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11818005



Interesting admission that last bit, eh? Makes it sound like the South fired first but with slightly bad aim. Funny how that aim was at NK.



What about the South saying it fired away from the North makes you think " Interesting admission " ??

Weird.

This, after the North has already killed nearly 50 South sailors, in sinking a frigate ... how do you blame the SK for this ? Even a little ?




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Tuesday, November 23, 2010 8:49 PM

Why is this our problem?

Nk knows we can flatten them if they frack with us.



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Tuesday, November 23, 2010 8:50 PM

Does this mean M*A*S*H is coming back?




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Tuesday, November 23, 2010 9:28 PM

Hello,

We can flatten most anyone. (Though that doesn't win conflicts by itself.)

But do we want to? Can we afford to? If war does break out, what will our response and responsibility be?

I do not want to put this nation into yet another war.

--Anthony


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