Public Education
POSTED BY: TheHappyTrader
UPDATED: Tuesday, December 10, 2024 23:18
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Originally posted by canttakesky:Quote:I don't have enough data to defend a position either for or against aliens, ancient or otherwise.
Originally posted by kaneman:
Do you believe in ancient aliens?
In other words, I don't know.
--Can't Take (my gorram) Sky
Well, you do live at ground zero in the ancient alien theory. I have no opinion on the issue myself. I just find the programs on tv about it entertaining......And they always go back to peru for proof....
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Using computers with a teacher present is an excellent idea. Computers and technology have become integrated into every occupation and we should prepare them for that. I just worry it's only a matter of time before some genius decides, "we don't really need the teachers, the computers do most of the work. Let's fire the teachers to save money."
Also, a computer will never teach some subjects (like art, music, dance...) as well as a teacher can. Not that the folks in charge of our schools seem to care about a cultured education. That's not on the standardized test...
That's great that your kids are taking initiative and learning things on their own! My eight year old brother has been googling information information on snakes and wild cats lately. The computer is a wonderful resource and should enhance learning, but should not replace the teacher.
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Originally posted by canttakesky:
Very cool. Let us know when part 2 comes out, will ya?
From the Huff-N-Puff post, a site I ain't too fond of, but they did carry the interview...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jonathan-kim/rethink-interview-cevin-s_b
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I read that the War On Kids is one of a two-part series. What can we expect in the second film?
Part two documents the way American society regards children through the implementation of curfews, corporal punishment, the anti-Rave act, reform schools, exclusion from public spaces, and scapegoating by the media. As disturbing as the War on Kids may be, part two will be much worse. By and large, people who work in school mean well or like to project the appearance as such. Outside of school, the levels of intolerance are profound, but go unnoticed.
He's not kiddin about the worse, although in order to make it even tolerable to watch, there's actually VERY little of our material they could even use - again, there's things in this world that just the KNOWING of, can hurt you.
-Frem
I do not serve the Blind God.
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Quote:Certainly there are a lot of mysteries here. But I wouldn't know what the answers are.
Originally posted by kaneman:
And they always go back to peru for proof....
--Can't Take (my gorram) Sky
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Happy
Not just teachers, but peers.
Here's an atypical one: I was working on a research project for a graduate class on cybernetics. I'd been trying to solve the problem using neurochemistry and had hit a stone wall. I handed the problem to a ten year old black kid in the neighborhood. He said it was a molecular biophysics problem and worked out the solution in about ten minutes. I knew he didn't go to school, so I asked him where he learned that. "I watch a lot of TV" he said. That would be discovery, the learning channel, etc.
So, It's not always as clear cut a social structure as we think. His solution was a workable one, of course. He had inserted into the design a small gadget with synthetic nanosenors which would bind to the NTs I was using and transfer them into a fiberoptic signal, that could then be relocated to a similar device anywhere in the body, in this case, below a synaptic break.
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Quote:Just out of curiosity, why aren't you fond of it?
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
From the Huff-N-Puff post, a site I ain't too fond of,
--Can't Take (my gorram) Sky
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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Here's an atypical one: I was working on a research project for a graduate class on cybernetics. I'd been trying to solve the problem using neurochemistry and had hit a stone wall. I handed the problem to a ten year old black kid in the neighborhood. He said it was a molecular biophysics problem and worked out the solution in about ten minutes. I knew he didn't go to school, so I asked him where he learned that. "I watch a lot of TV" he said. That would be discovery, the learning channel, etc.
That is an extraordinary story! Wow.
--Can't Take (my gorram) Sky
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Originally posted by canttakesky:
Just out of curiosity, why aren't you fond of it?
Cause they're on many an occasion fulla shit, and let thier biases blind them to a degree I find repulsive - not the least of which is cause when they actually do a story well, it's not as credible cause everyone KNOWS this, you see ?
Same as how everyone with a bloody clue knows smoking is harmful, but when some anti-org comes up with a blatantly loaded, unscientific study and then makes false claims on top of it - regardless of having an obvious point, they've fucked up their credibility to where they're just harming their own cause - which is even more accellerated when folks who've been told what they wanna hear quit caring about the facts and start ripping into anyone who points out the errors and the flaws.
This happens on any issue or end of the political spectrum - I am emphatically *NOT* welcome to comment on most Anarchist 'Zines for this very reason, so it's not just Fox News which does this shit, it's all and every, here and there, and the Huff-N-Puff is kinda notorious for it.
All that said, back to the topic at hand, here's a right damned interesting article, but it's a bit of a long read.
The Shadow Scholar
http://chronicle.com/article/article-content/125329
Thing is, everyone KNOWS this goes on, college is just a join-the-club fee anyway, buying your way into a higher social rank in much the same fashion officers once had to buy their commissions - again, I call our society neo-feudalism for a REASON, cause it really IS.
-Frem
I do not serve the Blind God.
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Frem, thanks for that link to The Shadow Scholar. What an eye opener that is.
Agreed on the neo-feudalism, right down to renting our own property with property taxes.
--Can't Take (my gorram) Sky
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Some citizens expect their schools to teach their children, the Public Schools fail at this - your claim is that teaching is not the function or responsibility of Public Schools. This argues in favor of School Voucher: give us back our money so we can put it to good use.
Public Schools have no interest in teaching because it's "free", the money is paid to "higher education" so the 13 years of public school is just the time-waster to channel children to college/tech school where graduates cannot even accomplish what 8th graders in other countries (or even our own schools of a century ago) already do.
Problem number one with Public Education: Teachers Unions.
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