What do we teach our children?
POSTED BY: canttakesky
UPDATED: Wednesday, August 6, 2025 13:01
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I am not a big fan of Alex Jones, but his interview with Michelle brings up some good issues.
http://www.infowars.com/tsa-fondles-women-and-children-refusing-airpor
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What do we teach our children? "Don't ever, ever let anyone touch you in your private places--except at airports? Because sexual assault is legal there."
As a mother, I can't imagine telling my daughter that she has to let a grown male or female stranger feel her private areas. What kind of betrayal is that?
How is this a choice, when your options are either to teach them to be obedient in getting irradiated (with unknown health risks) and or to teach them to be obedient through a sexual assault.
Frem, I hope to hear some good, profanity laden rants from you. Please. I need it. Thank you.
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Security theater, meet security porn.
This is pure cultural psychosis.
People carrying bombs have a list of readily apparent psychological characteristics that a trained observer can pick out after a few seconds--muscular, gestural and postural cues that can't be masked except with muscle relaxants which carry their own characteristic "tells." For one, they don't like eye contact; two, they don't look up; three, they have heightened anxiety apparent in a dozen different ways. And that's just the most obvious stuff that even untrained but observant people can see. Profile for this kinda shit and leave the rest of the women and small children alone. You ask a 2 year old if she has any bombs on her, one way or another, it's gonna be obvious just from looking at her! You don't need to grope the poor child. I can barely believe that this is what a 10 years gone terror attack has brought this country to. People are so terrified that now they're believing in 2 year old hardened criminals pulling the wool over the eyes of airport security. Totally insane. Where does this come from and where does it end?
And fer Christ's sake, breast implant bombs??? No, you DO NOT get to tell people that suicide bombers are carrying bombs in their breast implants UNTIL such a bomb is actually found or detonated. One of these things is not like the others: homemade bomb in shoe, homemade bomb in underwear, half-assed bomb in trunk of car, ultra-sophisticated miniaturized bomb embedded in breast implant by skilled surgeon. Sorry, it's horseshit. Sure, terrorists will tell you that they're doing it--why wouldn't they? Freakin' MI5 says they've picked up "chatter." Oh, that's actionable intel, fer sure.
Yeah, and Saddam said he had WMD. Why? To scare us into doing stupid shit! It's so effing transparent what's going on here. Let's turn the West into our mental slaves--make them jump through our hoops just by telling them we might have some hoops. And it appears to be working. This is so far beyond disgusting and transparent.
And again, if there were such a woman fitted with these bombs and trying to get onboard a plane, a trained deception detector could pick her out of the crowd based on muscular, gestural and postural cues. And it would be a hell of a lot cheaper than x-ray machines, and a hell of a lot more effective than some TSA perv dry-humping her.
Like Ted Bundy used to say: "Buckle up for safety!"
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Yeah, this is ridiculous. We have let the damned terrorists win by just giving up our freedoms. I hate these fucking scanners. What a waste of money and time. I'm so glad I don't travel as much as I used to, because it's gotten nuts - and now this searching private places thing? Good lord.
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Thank you, HK. I am so glad you pointed out there are ways to address security concerns without resorting to this. This is not about security. It is about obedience.
This should make everyone who recognizes sexual molestation furious. This poor woman didn't know what it was, and now she is going to feel molested forever. And we all stood by and let it happen.
For some reason, I am reminded of the Milgram experiment on Obedience. Here it is again, cause it is worth widespread viewing. (Be sure to watch all 3 parts. The good commentary is at the end.)
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Move them to Cali, light a joint, and ban pets....
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Teach them what is best in life.....
To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.
That is all. 
"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."
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As I post every time this comes up, I actually personally know the guy who designed this experiment. His name is not on it because when Stan Milgram wanted to claim all the credit, the creator made no effort to stop him. He said "We created a monster, and when I started a second study to see if we could actually stop this monster, my funding was mysteriously pulled."
The whole thing was created under the pretense of stopping a Nazi like authoritarian behavior, but when it came time to try, there turn out to be no interest in stopping monsters, only creating them.
Funny that.
Oh, and I would refer Niki and Mal to this post, this is where authoritarian behavior and mindset is really coming from.
Remember of course that these are university students, and professors, overwhelmingly liberal, but I don't think liberalism caused them to behave this way.
Also, comments from the guy who did the study who prefers not to be named, but he would like to add this:
The study worked at different rates in different societies. It was most effective in Sweden, whereas adherence to the extreme requests of manipulators in the study had their weakest showing in France. In analyzing the data he said he thought that general social chaos of society was the strongest part, but distrust of authority such as govt., the education system, etc. played a part in resistance to the experiment.
He also noted that what he was able to do in preventative study was determine that deprogramming the programmed was virtually if not entirely impossible, but that preconditioning them against it, immunizing them, as it were, was fairly successful. Still, in a study with all but one of the students being ringers who were immunized against the program and had a been asked to stage a revolt against the study, the one programmed student in the study failed to give up his adherence to the new programming even after the last of the ringers had rebelled against it.
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Originally posted by kaneman:
Move them to Cali, light a joint, and ban pets....
Leave it to our local teabaggers to hold the position that objecting to an invasion of privacy is a "liberal" belief...
The modern definition of "socialist" is anyone who's winning an argument against a tea-bagger.
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Yanno, there's times I get tired of picking up the balls John fumbles.... not that ole PN would do a coherent job of it, mind you, but he shoulda at least fekkin mentioned it.
Thing is, follow the money, remember that Neo-Con bitch Chertoff ?
Well, he has a heavy financial interest in those machines, and was instrumental in pushing them, and he ain't the only one.
http://motherjones.com/mojo/2010/01/airport-scanner-scam
Hell, how much did we pay for those stupid sniffer/puffer machines which never worked, and went into the landfill, but SOMEONE got paid, didn't they ?
And of course, the many times I have shown our so-called protectors to be directly or indirectly behind many of these supposed terrorists, you gotta think about the fact that they damn well want us to not go questioning, especially in light of for likely the first time in history we got a partial accounting of what the bill for our intel/alphabet boys is gonna be.
80.1 BILLION dollars, for one year, and for what, for them to cook up plots, hand it to a provocateur who sells it to a pack of incompetents who couldn't pour piss out of a boot if the directions were stamped on the heel, and then round them up and tout it like there was ever any kind of threat ?
Remember, these are also the nimrods who GAVE ole KSM's goons a working bomb when they couldn't build one themselves, and then managed to let em set it off under the WTC in 1993 - the bitter irony of that bomb being paid for by YOUR TAX DOLLARS shouldn't be lost on any of us ?
Or all the bullshit that has come before, and has come around to bite us on the ass, from them capping Mossedeigh, to arming and training the Mujas, to installing Saddam, *ALL* of which comes back to bite us on the ass, does it not ?
Anyone here really think Kharazi is gonna do anything but the same bloody thing - or get lynched and replaced by someone who hates us more than the damn Ayatollah did ?
No, they do NOT make us safe, they make us LESS safe - the real terrorists are our own so-called protectors, not just with their fearmongering, but going round picking fights to keep us mired in wars to feed the military-corporate welfare machine, War *is* a Racket, as Smedley said.
The key to avoiding 99.99999% of terrorist attacks is not abusing other nations and their people to the point where they're willing to die to make a point of things, where they have no hope of a better future thanks in great part to our actions, and that won't go away overnight - I mean, what CAN we offer a guy whos home, family, crops and livestock was "collateral damage", who has nothing left BUT grudge... a fuckin apology ?
Not doin that shit in the FIRST place is the key to not having that guy come after you with ten pounds of semtex strapped to him.
And fuck, it's easier than that - how many people could we feed, clothe, shelter, give medical care to, for eighty BILLION dollars ?
Sure, they won't trust us right off, who would ?
But feedin hungry people has a way of inclining them to think you're OK, that maybe you ain't as evil as they thought, and it pays off in ways beyond mere money and politics, should anyone care.
For a fact, there IS no safety when everyone hates you, and wants to kill you - and NO MATTER HOW YOU TRY, no matter how much MORE oppression and misery you heap on people, you will never cow them ENOUGH to be safe, not that way, and that way lies true madness, entire countries gone completely insane - one need look no further than Israel and Palestine to see where that goes, and they are no more safe, either of em, than they ever were.
And we've gone insane the same way, helped along by a system set up to drive us there, bombed by force and fear from the cradle to the grave.
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The key to avoiding 99.99999% of terrorist attacks is not abusing other nations and their people to the point where they're willing to die to make a point of things, where they have no hope of a better future thanks in great part to our actions, and that won't go away overnight - I mean, what CAN we offer a guy whos home, family, crops and livestock was "collateral damage", who has nothing left BUT grudge... a fuckin apology ?
Well, that and a channel for a proper redress of grievances. The thing is when we give them no voice in the process of change and no option to make cases against those who have wronged them and their families then we do reduce them to most base options left.
Of course, there's a decent chance that that's what TPTB want...
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