Milkin' the Space Cow: Avatar's next release

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Thursday, October 28, 2010 23:12
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CHRISISALL

Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:39 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
I will not buy any new DVDs of it with "extra" footage. I always hate when they change a movie from it's original release. I've fallen into that trap a few times, and the results are always the same....the "inserted" footage does not improve the movie, and in some cases actually makes it worse.

True, except in Cameron movies. The re-inserted stuff in Aliens, T2, and Abyss improved the films, and I see no reason to doubt the same regarding Avatar.

The laughing Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:57 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Guess what ? ALL HUMANS are capable of doing this, and more often than not, to a far greater extent than the US Military! To constantly paint 1 and only 1 group for doing such atrocities, while ignoring similar actions by others, is the worst sort of propaganda, and I've grown sick of it.

Err... I think you missed that the movie was not so much dissing on The U. S. Military, but The U. S. Corporation controlling it on Pandora.

It's the comfy chair FOR YOU!!!!

The laughing Chrisisall

CYBERSNARK

Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:14 PM

Technically, Earth's military never appeared in Avatar; according to the Survival Guide, they're not allowed to operate in space.

The bad guys on Pandora were entirely the RDA's hired security force, led by a refugee from Heart of Darkness. Hell, the RDA's nominal administrator wasn't actually such a bad guy, just shallow, materialistic, and too gutless to reign in his pet Man-Ape when he realized how out-of-hand things were getting.

(And the Na'vi weren't exactly portrayed as flawless; there were ample references to intertribal warfare. That was the whole point of Jake having to unite the tribes to form an organized resistance.)

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CHRISISALL

Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:35 PM

Thanks for the clearing-up!

The laughing Chrisisall

PHOENIXROSE

Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:43 PM

I really like Avatar. I never called it the most original story ever to grace the screen, but it was a solid story, and it was stunningly told. Yes, I like it for the scenery porn, and I can admit that.
3D gives me a headache. I'd like to see this version, but I may not be able to buy it right off, I have to save my pennies.

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STORYMARK

Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:51 PM

Sure, it was a story that's been done before - but that's true of most stories if you look around. What it was was a classic story, told in anew form, and extremely well.

That is pisses off hardcore neocons is just a bonus.

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PIZMOBEACH

Thursday, October 28, 2010 6:07 PM

Great film? It's so good you can even watch it with the sound off and not miss anything...
If ever there was a movie made for BluRay it would be Avatar, so yeah, I wants it.

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CLJOHNSTON108

Thursday, October 28, 2010 8:13 PM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
Sure, it was a story that's been done before - but that's true of most stories if you look around.

Right. How many variations on Romeo and Juliet or The Seven Samurai have we seen?

The movie I've watched the most times, since I was 8 years old, is Steve McQueen's Le Mans (1971), which was panned by critics as having "no story", and it bombed at the box office and bankrupted McQueen.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Mans_%28film%29
It's now widely-considered the greatest racing movie ever made.
The cinematography just puts you "in the action" more than anything else I've ever seen, coupled with the fact that there's almost no dialogue in the whole thing: no melodramatic soap opera or droning narration over every scene. It's just the pure experience of being in/at the race, both as driver and spectator.

AVATAR was similar, in that I just let myself get swept away by the experience of being physically there. I wasn't even paying attention to the story (or "lack" of one).

And, as someone who's used 3D modeling software before, my mouth was ajar the whole time, while I was looking (in vain) for the slightest telltale flaw in the CGI. I kept wondering, "How the fuck do you model that, sitting at a keyboard? How much memory did that use up? How long did it take to render each frame? etc."

At least the CGSociety members were suitably impressed...

CGTalk - James Cameron's AVATAR: The Reviews Are Not In Kansas Anymore... (spoilers)
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=2&t=833716

CHRISISALL

Thursday, October 28, 2010 8:23 PM

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Originally posted by cljohnston108:

The movie I've watched the most times, since I was 8 years old, is Steve McQueen's Le Mans (1971),..
The cinematography just puts you "in the action" more than anything else I've ever seen, coupled with the fact that there's almost no dialogue in the whole thing: no melodramatic soap opera or droning narration over every scene. It's just the pure experience of being in/at the race, both as driver and spectator.

That's a good analogy to Avatar IMO, and BTW, I saw Le Mans in the theatre with my Dad. I was mesmorized!! I remember feeling terror as the heavy raindrops began to hit the windshield...
I designed my own race car when we got home.
But it wasn't very good. I was a little kid, not a race car mechanic, for gosh sakes!!!!

The laughing Chrisisall

AURAPTOR

Thursday, October 28, 2010 8:40 PM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
Sure, it was a story that's been done before - but that's true of most stories if you look around. What it was was a classic story, told in anew form, and extremely well.

That is pisses off hardcore neocons is just a bonus.

That The Passion of the Christ pisses off so many Libs doesn't endear me to it, in the least. That's one flick I've never seen, and likely never will.

I didn't hate Avatar, it just wasn't all ' that ', imo. Sort of a waste of CG magic for a tired, over simplified story, but I can think of worse ways to spend your money.

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