I'm in a Police State of Mind
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I find it very interesting that the folk who're saying "no big deal" have nothing to say about the specific issue: a pilot in good standing is refused entry to his place of work because he won't submit to this invasive nonsense. Y'know, you get a job at Walmart, you got to expect to be drug tested and treated like garbage, but this pilot was under the false impression that he was a trusted employee.
I also find it very interesting that the folks saying "go ahead and strip search me"--correct me if I'm wrong here--are all men. Certain men on the internet and elsewhere continually respond to women's (and other men's) complaints of being objectified or sexualized or otherwise demeaned in their bodies with the man crowing "I wounldn't mind a little objectification/sexualization/humiliation, etc. heh heh heh," as if the complaints (and by extension, the people making them) are just too pathetic to be taken seriously.
I'm reminded of Freud's old argument that a patient has to pay for therapy in order to value the process. Some folk around here seem to feel that security doesn't really count UNLESS it involves an abridgement of rights; and the more one's rights are abridged the better the security has got to be! The government is selling this "security" and these invasions are "what the market will bear." If this is truly the consensus among "most Americans" then our nation is well and truly fucked.
HKCavalier
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Ya wanna hear something scary? I send stuff around the country to trade shows, on shrink-wrapped pallets, so my boss has a tendency to fly with a utility knife in her purse - you know the ones - about 5-6" long, thick retractable razor blade. She keeps it in there, and forgets about it, and she's never once been searched or had anyone notice it when she flies. This has happened no less than half a dozen times.
Don't know where your boss flies out of, but I've contributed two or three small (1.5" blade) pocket knives with plastic handles to TSA because I forgot they were in my briefcase. They haven't missed one yet. Maybe your local airports aren't as on the ball as National or Dulles.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
That's the rub, Geeze - She's flying in AND out of airports all over the country. Chicago (O'Hare), Dallas, Austin, Orlando (twice), San Diego, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Seattle...
You ever see those news stories where they use people to try to sneak bomb components through security to test the TSA people? Remember how often those tests fail to turn up the "bombs"? Yeah, it's just like that.
Her purse goes through the scanner, she goes through the detector, the whole bit. A utility knife - an ALL-METAL utility knife, at that - SHOULD be clearly visible, if anyone were paying any attention at all. A big part of why they don't notice, I'll wager, is that she's all of 5'2", 90 lbs, blonde hair and blue eyes, and quite attractive, as well as very personable and talkative - in other words, she doesn't match the "profile" of any kind of terrorist.
But you'd still think someone would notice. And they never have. It's gotten to the point that it really kind of freaks her out, because if SHE'S unthinkingly done this this many times now, what ELSE are they missing?
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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
I find it very interesting that the folk who're saying "no big deal" have nothing to say about the specific issue: a pilot in good standing is refused entry to his place of work because he won't submit to this invasive nonsense. Y'know, you get a job at Walmart, you got to expect to be drug tested and treated like garbage, but this pilot was under the false impression that he was a trusted employee.
I also find it very interesting that the folks saying "go ahead and strip search me"--correct me if I'm wrong here--are all men. Certain men on the internet and elsewhere continually respond to women's (and other men's) complaints of being objectified or sexualized or otherwise demeaned in their bodies with the man crowing "I wounldn't mind a little objectification/sexualization/humiliation, etc. heh heh heh," as if the complaints (and by extension, the people making them) are just too pathetic to be taken seriously.
I'm reminded of Freud's old argument that a patient has to pay for therapy in order to value the process. Some folk around here seem to feel that security doesn't really count UNLESS it involves an abridgement of rights; and the more one's rights are abridged the better the security has got to be! The government is selling this "security" and these invasions are "what the market will bear." If this is truly the consensus among "most Americans" then our nation is well and truly fucked.
HKCavalier
Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Well, yes and no.
No doubt for a LOT of people, this is a bit of schadenfreude - *I* have to go through this shit, so fuck you if *YOU* don't like going through it! You know what I mean?
But scanning the pilot isn't going to make one person one iota safer, so I'm with ya on that one.
However, have you ever worked a job where they DID change the terms of your employment? Like, say, they decided they DID want to do drug testing, where they never did before, and had no reason to suspect you of anything in the first place?
In the employment marketplace, we're all just commodities and resources. Wanna exercise some power to change that equation a bit? Better join a union!
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I hate Obama's America. You're damn right about that.
Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.
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Originally posted by Geezer:Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Ya wanna hear something scary? I send stuff around the country to trade shows, on shrink-wrapped pallets, so my boss has a tendency to fly with a utility knife in her purse - you know the ones - about 5-6" long, thick retractable razor blade. She keeps it in there, and forgets about it, and she's never once been searched or had anyone notice it when she flies. This has happened no less than half a dozen times.
Don't know where your boss flies out of, but I've contributed two or three small (1.5" blade) pocket knives with plastic handles to TSA because I forgot they were in my briefcase. They haven't missed one yet. Maybe your local airports aren't as on the ball as National or Dulles.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
He's full of shit. It was a made up story to make a stupid libtard point. I called him on it right away. It is nearly impossible to get through the metal detectors with a metal tubed lip stick, let alone a 6 inch BOX CUTTER.
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
In the employment marketplace, we're all just commodities and resources. Wanna exercise some power to change that equation a bit? Better join a union!
Oh, you mean the corporate pacification arm of the empire which charges you money for the privledge of bowing and scraping and handing over your pensions, rights and dignity to the corporate empire while giggling up their sleeve about how clever they are to be to be more or less running their own so-called "opposition" via the Carnegie-Gompers model ?
Or do you mean a REAL union ?
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