Visiting/Colonizing Mars
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You should check out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_trilogy
"Green Mars—Terraforming
Green Mars takes its title from the stage of terraforming that has allowed plants to grow. It picks up the story from Red Mars, following the lives of the remaining First Hundred and their children and grandchildren. Hiroko Ai's base under the south pole is attacked by UN forces, and the survivors are forced to escape into a (less literal) underground organization known as the Demimonde. Among the expanded group are the First Hundred's children, the Nisei, a number of whom live in Ai's second secret base, Zygote.
As unrest in the multinational control over Mars' affairs grow, various groups start to form with different aims and methods. Watching these groups evolve from Earth, the CEO of the Praxis Corporation sends a representative, Arthur Randolph, to organize the resistance movements. This culminates into the Dorsa Brevia agreement, in which nearly all the underground factions take part. Preparations are made for a second revolution beginning in the 2120s.
The book follows the characters across the martian landscape, which is explained in detail. As Sax Russell's character infiltrates the transnat terraforming project, the newly evolving martian biosphere is described at great length. A mainstay of the novel is a detailed analysis of philosophical, political, personal, economical, and geological experiences of the characters. The story weaves back and forth from character to character, providing a picture of Mars as seen by them.
One major event is a sudden, catastrophic rise in Earth's global sea levels, which is caused not primarily by any greenhouse effect but by the eruption of a chain of volcanoes underneath the ice of west Antarctica, disintegrating the ice sheet and displacing the fragments into the ocean."
Pretty good read, especially for what you are interested in.
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Originally posted by pizmobeach:
You should check out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_trilogy
"Green Mars—Terraforming
Green Mars takes its title from the stage of terraforming that has allowed plants to grow. It picks up the story from Red Mars, following the lives of the remaining First Hundred and their children and grandchildren. Hiroko Ai's base under the south pole is attacked by UN forces, and the survivors are forced to escape into a (less literal) underground organization known as the Demimonde. Among the expanded group are the First Hundred's children, the Nisei, a number of whom live in Ai's second secret base, Zygote.
As unrest in the multinational control over Mars' affairs grow, various groups start to form with different aims and methods. Watching these groups evolve from Earth, the CEO of the Praxis Corporation sends a representative, Arthur Randolph, to organize the resistance movements. This culminates into the Dorsa Brevia agreement, in which nearly all the underground factions take part. Preparations are made for a second revolution beginning in the 2120s.
The book follows the characters across the martian landscape, which is explained in detail. As Sax Russell's character infiltrates the transnat terraforming project, the newly evolving martian biosphere is described at great length. A mainstay of the novel is a detailed analysis of philosophical, political, personal, economical, and geological experiences of the characters. The story weaves back and forth from character to character, providing a picture of Mars as seen by them.
One major event is a sudden, catastrophic rise in Earth's global sea levels, which is caused not primarily by any greenhouse effect but by the eruption of a chain of volcanoes underneath the ice of west Antarctica, disintegrating the ice sheet and displacing the fragments into the ocean."
Pretty good read, especially for what you are interested in.
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I have heard of that book series, but never had the chance to read it
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Originally posted by pizmobeach:
You should check out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_trilogy
"Green Mars—Terraforming
Green Mars takes its title from the stage of terraforming that has allowed plants to grow. It picks up the story from Red Mars, following the lives of the remaining First Hundred and their children and grandchildren. Hiroko Ai's base under the south pole is attacked by UN forces, and the survivors are forced to escape into a (less literal) underground organization known as the Demimonde. Among the expanded group are the First Hundred's children, the Nisei, a number of whom live in Ai's second secret base, Zygote.
As unrest in the multinational control over Mars' affairs grow, various groups start to form with different aims and methods. Watching these groups evolve from Earth, the CEO of the Praxis Corporation sends a representative, Arthur Randolph, to organize the resistance movements. This culminates into the Dorsa Brevia agreement, in which nearly all the underground factions take part. Preparations are made for a second revolution beginning in the 2120s.
The book follows the characters across the martian landscape, which is explained in detail. As Sax Russell's character infiltrates the transnat terraforming project, the newly evolving martian biosphere is described at great length. A mainstay of the novel is a detailed analysis of philosophical, political, personal, economical, and geological experiences of the characters. The story weaves back and forth from character to character, providing a picture of Mars as seen by them.
One major event is a sudden, catastrophic rise in Earth's global sea levels, which is caused not primarily by any greenhouse effect but by the eruption of a chain of volcanoes underneath the ice of west Antarctica, disintegrating the ice sheet and displacing the fragments into the ocean."
Pretty good read, especially for what you are interested in.
Scifi movie music + Firefly dialogue clips, 24 hours a day - http://www.scifiradio.com
I have heard of that book series, but never had the chance to read it
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Originally posted by pizmobeach:
You should check out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_trilogy
"Green Mars—Terraforming
Green Mars takes its title from the stage of terraforming that has allowed plants to grow. It picks up the story from Red Mars, following the lives of the remaining First Hundred and their children and grandchildren. Hiroko Ai's base under the south pole is attacked by UN forces, and the survivors are forced to escape into a (less literal) underground organization known as the Demimonde. Among the expanded group are the First Hundred's children, the Nisei, a number of whom live in Ai's second secret base, Zygote.
As unrest in the multinational control over Mars' affairs grow, various groups start to form with different aims and methods. Watching these groups evolve from Earth, the CEO of the Praxis Corporation sends a representative, Arthur Randolph, to organize the resistance movements. This culminates into the Dorsa Brevia agreement, in which nearly all the underground factions take part. Preparations are made for a second revolution beginning in the 2120s.
The book follows the characters across the martian landscape, which is explained in detail. As Sax Russell's character infiltrates the transnat terraforming project, the newly evolving martian biosphere is described at great length. A mainstay of the novel is a detailed analysis of philosophical, political, personal, economical, and geological experiences of the characters. The story weaves back and forth from character to character, providing a picture of Mars as seen by them.
One major event is a sudden, catastrophic rise in Earth's global sea levels, which is caused not primarily by any greenhouse effect but by the eruption of a chain of volcanoes underneath the ice of west Antarctica, disintegrating the ice sheet and displacing the fragments into the ocean."
Pretty good read, especially for what you are interested in.
Scifi movie music + Firefly dialogue clips, 24 hours a day - http://www.scifiradio.com
I have heard of that book series, but never had the chance to read it
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Originally posted by Cybersnark:
Just came across this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11137903Quote:
A lonely island in the middle of the South Atlantic conceals Charles Darwin's best-kept secret.
Two hundred years ago, Ascension Island was a barren volcanic edifice.
Today, its peaks are covered by lush tropical "cloud forest".
What happened in the interim is the amazing story of how the architect of evolution, Kew Gardens and the Royal Navy conspired to build a fully functioning, but totally artificial ecosystem.
By a bizarre twist, this great imperial experiment may hold the key to the future colonisation of Mars.
[. . .]
"What it tells us is that we can build a fully functioning ecosystem through a series of chance accidents or trial and error."
In effect, what Darwin, Hooker and the Royal Navy achieved was the world's first experiment in "terra-forming". They created a self-sustaining and self-reproducing ecosystem in order to make Ascension Island more habitable.
Wilkinson thinks that the principles that emerge from that experiment could be used to transform future colonies on Mars. In other words, rather than trying to improve an environment by force, the best approach might be to work with life to help it "find its own way".
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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.
Very interesting indeed, I wonder if there could happen something similar could be done on mars, well there is of cause the small problems of CO2based atmosphere, that is still quite thin, and it is very cold, but with little help, perhaps by some kind of nanomachines, perhaps some great mirrors in orbit too would help, and if so could just find a way to magnetossphere to ward of the atmossphere thining higly energized particles from the sun
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CO2 is only a problem for animals; plants would like it (and plants seem to have a greater tolerance for radiation as well, so they could get started oxigenating while we figure out how to spin up the magnetosphere).
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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.
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Originally posted by Cybersnark:
CO2 is only a problem for animals; plants would like it (and plants seem to have a greater tolerance for radiation as well, so they could get started oxigenating while we figure out how to spin up the magnetosphere).
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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.
well i once read somewhere that yes plants like CO2 but for some reason it would still need a little O2, but if that was somehow faulty, sorry
do you think there are any kinds of moss on the very high moutains that could survive on mars, without just a little tweaking somehow to make them more resistant to the low temps on mars?
and sorry about the tripple post, it seemed to have trouble accepting post yesterday, and then suddenly there was 3 post saying the same
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Originally posted by Cybersnark:
CO2 is only a problem for animals; plants would like it (and plants seem to have a greater tolerance for radiation as well, so they could get started oxigenating while we figure out how to spin up the magnetosphere).
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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.
I saw a program on Discovery some days ago, about the reversal of the magnetic pole(mag-N pole going south, and S-pole going north geoghaphical speaking, and the problems following the waning strenght of the magnetosphere that would follow, well they made an experiment to look at the magnetic fields from the molten outer core, and the solid inner core, by makeing a sphere, one solid metal(iron or steel)sphere incased in a hollow one filled with liquid metal(cannot remember what it was, but it was something that easilly melted) and began to spin them both(solid and and liquid, not sure how with the liquid metal) and then began to reach a number of rotations a minut or so of both of them, the began to get readings similar to the mag field, sure it might not be as strong, but what if many(perhaps thousands) of these where set up around the world, and ultimately also on mars would that not give a similar effect, maybe some other metals would be better to use too.
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First we need to build ships that don't require alot of maintenance like aircraft. Not to mention powerplants that work without fuel or upkeep. Start with the toilets first. I do think it was a crime to bring the shuttle back into the atmo with a heat shield missing. A good wrench with a field kit could have evaluated the repair, fixed it, or called for a rescue rocket with parts on board to help. Make sense.
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