Taliban winning in Afghanistan
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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Let them win.
The more we fight, the stronger they become. This is because there are more powers on this Earth with a vested interest in us losing than there are with an interest in us winning. These powers will pour resources into the Taliban and anyone else fighting us until we lose. Hence, the longer we fight, the stronger they become. Ultimately, we lose.
Think about it:
Russia and a number of European country oppose a US-dominated middle east. Add that together, and that's most of Europe.
The communists and the muslim world wishes us to fail, that's most of Africa, and ultimately, when you add in the drug lords who also want us to fail with the communists, that's most of Latin America as well.
China, Russia, Pakistan, Iran, other muslim nations are dead set against our victory, and India has doubts. That's almost all of Asia.
So, add it up. It's the US, with the support of Israel, and now it's really losing or lost the support of the UK. That means up to 95% of the world is against us.
And it gets worse: Apparently, WE are arming the enemy ourselves, because elements within our own govt either seek to profit from it, want to undermine the mission, or claim it for themselves, or are just too hopelessly disorganized to know who they are helping...
So, almost 100% of the world is helping the enemy. So, the longer conflict goes on, the stronger the enemy becomes.
So let them win. Better today than tomorrow, and better tomorrow than the day after...
Yup, to pretty much all of that. India likes that we're a bit of a thorn in the side of Pakistan at the moment, and they also like anything which drags our attention away from their area of the world for a bit, so of course they're happy. Naturally, China likes that, too. While we're distracted and hemorrhaging money, they're only too happy to keep gobbling up our debt, because they know that sooner or later we either have to pay up, or quit, and either way, they win big.
Also, nobody in the area wants the U.S. trying to put the squeeze on Iran by having bases in the surrounding countries, because they know that only leads to a shooting war with Ira, and frankly, China, India, Pakistan, and Russia want access to Iranian oil more than they want us in the area.
That doesn't mean that they aren't happy to see us trapped their and bogged down, but they don't seriously want us winning or making any real headway in the area. Much better for their respective spheres of influence if we stay put and don't make any real progress.
The real fools are those who think any of them are on our side. There aren't "sides" anymore - there's only influence, money, power, and resources, and it's every nation for itself.
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Quote:That post is exactly why the Coalition is losing the war and it has nothing to do what you say. If America actually thinks that 95% of the world is helping the Taliban because they aren't helping them is the reason why the Taliban is able to keep recruiting.
Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Let them win.
The more we fight, the stronger they become. This is because there are more powers on this Earth with a vested interest in us losing than there are with an interest in us winning. These powers will pour resources into the Taliban and anyone else fighting us until we lose. Hence, the longer we fight, the stronger they become. Ultimately, we lose.
Think about it:
Russia and a number of European country oppose a US-dominated middle east. Add that together, and that's most of Europe.
The communists and the muslim world wishes us to fail, that's most of Africa, and ultimately, when you add in the drug lords who also want us to fail with the communists, that's most of Latin America as well.
China, Russia, Pakistan, Iran, other muslim nations are dead set against our victory, and India has doubts. That's almost all of Asia.
So, add it up. It's the US, with the support of Israel, and now it's really losing or lost the support of the UK. That means up to 95% of the world is against us.
And it gets worse: Apparently, WE are arming the enemy ourselves, because elements within our own govt either seek to profit from it, want to undermine the mission, or claim it for themselves, or are just too hopelessly disorganized to know who they are helping...
So, almost 100% of the world is helping the enemy. So, the longer conflict goes on, the stronger the enemy becomes.
So let them win. Better today than tomorrow, and better tomorrow than the day after...
Russia and the E.U. might not want a US-dominated Middle East, but they sure as hell don't want a fundamentalist regime that will just as likely kill them than deal with them.
Communists don't want the Taliban to win because the Taliban defeated the Democratic (Soviet) Republic of Afghanistan.
Obviously the extreme Islamic regimes (Iran et al) want the US to fail. And I'll pay you the drug lords but the CIA was the ones that enabled the Afghanis to set up their drug trade.
China might want America to fail but, again they don't want an unstable regime on their western border considering they have troubles enough with Tibet. You said Russia twice. Pakistan and India also don't want unstable neighbours.
So you not trusting your own "allies" could have something to do with it if they do want you to fail. You're like the head bitchy cheerleader; every wants to be your friend, but everyone cheers when you break your arm.
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Mike,
India just likes us handing them our empire on a silver platter the way the Brits handed it to us. I'm not sure if they're down with the rise in terrorist we create though.
Meanwhile, as to why we're there, you should keep your WTO map updated. It ain't the oil, though that's a nice benny
If you're not colored in, then we might have to invade. This particular map contains some errors: Turkey keeps jumping in, and Somalia and Eritrea keep jumping out.
Oh, and one of those white things is the Caspian Sea, not a country. yet. :)
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That post is exactly why the Coalition is losing the war and it has nothing to do what you say.
Your logic does not resemble our Earth logic.
The taliban is 30,000 guys. They appear to be kicking our ass at the moment. We seem to out number them 10,000 to one in people, (we're all behind this war effort, since that's where our taxes are going) and we out dollar them million or billions of times, and we out gun them far more than anything else, with about 1/2 the world's firepower to their almost nothing. It would be funny if it weren't so sad.
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Russia and the E.U. might not want a US-dominated Middle East, but they sure as hell don't want a fundamentalist regime that will just as likely kill them than deal with them.
China has also said how much it doesn't want a US-dominated middle east, but you're very wrong if you think any of them cares if a funadmentalist muslim regime controls afghanistan. They don't give a fuck. In fact, the Taliban were in charge for years, and they did nothing, because they didn't care. And still don't. Actually muslim extremists have controlled Afghanistan for centuries.
And yes, no one wants an unstable regime as a neighbor. We and Karzai are an unstable regime. Look how many enemies are trying to topple us. I don't see that the Taliban were an unstable regime, even we weren't trying to topple them until a deal fell through. It wasn't that pipeline either.
I said russia twice, intentionally. And, I'm not America. America doesn't really have any allies. It has one master with a whip, and some little mice that fear us, or them. It's a dysfunctional relationship.
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
... every civvie who gets killed as "collateral damage" from our ineffective thrashing... every relative they have then becomes a potential threat to us, this also I warned of going into the situation.
But that's the whole point, dontcha see?
They can't have an endless war against terror unless they can guarantee a steady stream of terrorists.
How to have an endless war:
1. Find some whackjob nuts, no matter how insane and how lame.
2. Carry out a false flag operation and blame said lame whackjob nuts.
3. Go kill a bunch of innocent people under the pretext of hunting said lame whackjob nuts.
4. Whackjob nuts grow in membership in response to senseless killing, thus become a real threat.
5. Get more money and repeat step # 3, except this time, they are no longer as lame.
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The Yankees Are Coming Home: the Taliban Won. Get Over It
http://www.renegadetribune.com/the-yankees-are-coming-home-the-taliban
-won-get-over-it/
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Quote:Well, the Taliban was not a formidable foe. But yes, the Biden/Taliban faction was far more of a threat to America, just as non-Libtards knew all along.
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
The Yankees Are Coming Home: the Taliban Won. Get Over It
http://www.renegadetribune.com/the-yankees-are-coming-home-the-taliban
-won-get-over-it/
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First post on the topic was 2010. Eleven years later, the inevitable has come to pass.
However, let me point out that if Brzezinski/Carter hadn't decided to fund the"mujahideen" (jihadists) and hadn't decided to overthrow the Soviet-friendly government, Afghanistan would probably today be a secular nation where women would have CONTINUED to make up 40pct of doctors and lawyers, and a significant pct of engineers, instead of a woman-hating, religiously intolerant, corrupt exporter of heroin.
Come to think of it, the USA has destroyed, or attempted to destroy, ALL of the secular nations of the MENA (Afghanistan, Iran under Mossadegh, Iraq, Libya, Syria). We must have a death wish in that region.
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All this is assuming of course the US doesn't 'withdraw' from Afghanistan under Biden* the way it 'withdrew' from Syria under Trump.
If true, I wonder if the Taliban is benefiting from the Biden* policy of pissing-off both Russia AND China at the same time! Because somebody counted heads and decided there weren't any spare to waste on Afghanistan.
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Quote:2010. Well, this is completely different now.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
First post on the topic was 2010. Eleven years later, the inevitable has come to pass.
However, let me point out that if Brzezinski/Carter hadn't decided to fund the"mujahideen" (jihadists) and hadn't decided to overthrow the Soviet-friendly government, Afghanistan would probably today be a secular nation where women would have CONTINUED to make up 40pct of doctors and lawyers, and a significant pct of engineers, instead of a woman-hating, religiously intolerant, corrupt exporter of heroin.
Come to think of it, the USA has destroyed, or attempted to destroy, ALL of the secular nations of the MENA (Afghanistan, Iran under Mossadegh, Iraq, Libya, Syria). We must have a death wish in that region.
That was the Obama/Biden regime.
Now this is the Obama/Biden/Harris regime.
No similarity whatsoever.
Completely different.
It was just "inevitable."
Too bad we couldn't reinvigorate this War under Trump.
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